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    Does the number stamped on the inside center of the original "D" caps mean anything identifiable to the car?

    I just picked up a matched set of 4 with the number "1042" stamped inside of all 4.

    Thanks for the input.

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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't 1042 mean the 10th month and the 42nd year after the year of the Emperor (1925) which would be 1969. So, October 1969.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sblake01 View Post
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't 1042 mean the 10th month and the 42nd year after the year of the Emperor (1925) which would be 1969. So, October 1969.
    The Showa date for 1969 is 44. 1925 + 42 = 1967.

    Do the hubcaps have lots of small clips around the edge to hold them on just a few larger clips? Earlier D caps have the fewer but larger clips.

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    Okay, bad math but did I get the formula right? So, 10/67?
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    I just looked at Alan T. post in another thread about Showa dates. I got the formula right but did the math wrong. Is that actually a date on thos hubcaps? Would they have been made that early? Mike B. or anyone who would know?
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    Mike,

    Attached is a picture of the edge. You can almost make out the "1042" in the center.

    Steven, you keep contributing to this board, we'll worry about the math

    Thanks Guys!
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    Were they using D caps on other vehicles back then?

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    I have a set of D hubcaps with the larger (earlier) retainer clips that came from the same original car. One has 00.81 and another has 52.13 on the back behind the center medallion area. The formula would seem to not apply to these numbers.

    Another set I have, again with the larger clips, has number "101" on one, and "107" on another along with "IKI JAPAN" printed below each number on the back center portion of each cap. Maybe someone can decipher the meaning of these numbers if the above formula may not apply.

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    Those are the later style clips. The same as on the set I sold to Mike B, which came off of a mid-71, around 4-6/71. I recall some stamped numbers on the back of mine, too. But I can't find any close-ups.
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    When I first saw the number I thought it might be linked to the VIN. Guess that was totally wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sblake01 View Post
    Is that actually a date on thos hubcaps? Would they have been made that early? Mike B. or anyone who would know?
    I have not seen any hubcaps dated prior to 1969 (Showa 44). Date code formats seem to vary quite a bit, and I'm not even certain that this is a date code. If it is, my guess would be April 2, 1971. It could be April 1, 1972, but I think they had gone to the later Z hubcaps by then (unless these are replacements bought from a dealer). I've seen the IKI or IKI Japan as Dan noted with a 3 digit like number like 102 or 103. Maybe that is Feb/Mar 1971?

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    they are stamped "IKI Made In Japan", but it is along the edge near the valve stem opening.

    I guess it doesn't matter as long as it is period correct. Would I need the larger tabs for a 01/70 Z? (or doesn't it matter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny'O View Post
    Would I need the larger tabs for a 01/70 Z? (or doesn't it matter)
    I'm not sure when the exact crossover was, but a 1/70 is very early and I'm sure it would have had the larger tabs originally. You can't see the tabs when they are mounted, so no one would ever know and the smaller tabs help keep the hubcap on the wheel more securely.

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    Technically, the larger tabs are correct for a car as early as yours. But for anything short of Gold Medallion, what you have now should be close enough, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike B View Post
    I'm not sure when the exact crossover was, but a 1/70 is very early and I'm sure it would have had the larger tabs originally. You can't see the tabs when they are mounted, so no one would ever know and the smaller tabs help keep the hubcap on the wheel more securely.

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    I have a set of each in need of restoration. Actually, you can tell the difference once they are mounted, as the valve stem location is different for each style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    I have a set of each in need of restoration. Actually, you can tell the difference once they are mounted, as the valve stem location is different for each style.
    Ahhh! I didn't know that! Good info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    I have a set of each in need of restoration. Actually, you can tell the difference once they are mounted, as the valve stem location is different for each style.
    Hmmm.... I'll have to double check the ones I have. I have seen the valve stem holes on both the top and the bottom of the D, but didn't make a connection to the early or late styles. I thought it just depended on which way the D emblem was mounted. If you are correct Ron, couldn't you just remove the two clips that hold the D emblem on in the back, switch it 180 degrees and then reattach it?

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    No Mike, look where the holes are. The early one lines up with one of the simulated spokes and the later lines up with a slot, so repositioning the cap won't change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    No Mike, look where the holes are. The early one lines up with one of the simulated spokes and the later lines up with a slot, so repositioning the cap won't change that.
    Yep, I checked some of mine and you're right Ron. Never noticed that.

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    Hi,

    Mr.Matsuo gave me a set of his NOS hubcaps 4 or 5 years ago.He told me that he wanted to buy a S30 as soon as possible for his personal car but at that time he was not allowed to do.I guess Nissan wanted every single S30 car to be delivered to the public.
    In late 1970 Mr.Matsuo was able to buy his own S30, that was a Fairlady-Z (S30-S, the most simple/basic model). That car does not come with a radio/hub caps/carpet/e.t.c.

    His choice was very interesting for me, he bought a set of hubcaps/fog lamps/e.t.c. separately from the dealer. He also told me S30-S does not have a radio as you know, it was a good for him.He tried some various kinds of radio/cassette in his car.He said he wanted to do that.

    Anyway, the hubcaps which I have got, they are big tabs and "103 IKI" on them, all the four caps are the same.

    I think as a supplied part from the parts center, it has "103" or so?
    And I can not remember correctly I used to owned a set of hubcaps, they have "45(5) 3 27" I thought it means 1970 march 27th".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny'O View Post
    Were they using D caps on other vehicles back then?
    Yes,
    They were used on certain models in the C10-series Skyline range - from August 1968 onwards, and on certain models in the C30-series Laurel range - from April 1968 onwards.

    Here's a pic of some Skyline versions:
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    Wow, who woulda thunk it. So much about hub caps. Well, I guess that means I will be selling a set of "later" series 1 caps and continue my quest for period correct ones.

    Thanks for input, I am pretty sure a few of us learned something here.

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    I was just reading an article in which the point was being made that the S30 was primarily a chassis and styling exercise and the running gear and drive train were "off the shelf" parts. Seeing what you have posted, Alan, to my surprise, reminds me of that essay.

    I seriously doubt that anyone is going to dink points because the hubcap is not the absolute correctest, Johnny'O. We might snicker behind your back, but nothing public!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26th-Z View Post
    We might snicker behind your back, but nothing public!

    I can take it, my wife has been snickering behind my back since the day I left for California to pick up my car.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26th-Z View Post
    I was just reading an article in which the point was being made that the S30 was primarily a chassis and styling exercise and the running gear and drive train were "off the shelf" parts.
    Somewhat off topic perhaps...but....

    Actually, it's hard to think of any car mass produced by a major automotive manufacturer, and sold in the USA since 1956 that doesn't fit that description. Can anyone think of a car that had a totally new body style, on a completely new chassis, powered by a completely new engine and drive train by its manufacturer?

    Why 1956? I just picked it out of the air - pick any model or calendar year you like.

    1960 Corvair perhaps....body √ chassis √ engine √ drive-train √


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    1974 VW Dasher (Passat, for the rest of the world). Radical departure from all that VW had done before. The Rabbit (Golf) was almost as new, but the engine carried over from the Dasher, just turned 90 degrees.

    Probably other similar stories during the mass move from rear drive to FWD in the late 70s and early 80s. Although many of those conversions carried the basic engine over from something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Beck View Post
    .....and sold in the USA since 1956......
    Yeah, let's not bring anything not sold in the USA into the discussion.


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