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    I'd love to see some pictures of original style Euro 240Z's, you all know that euro versions were a bit different. Im very interested about these rims that are installed in this particular Z, are those factory rims or aftermarket? That car is a 72 model, as is the magazine. Also the front and rear spoilers intrests me.

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    The Practical Classics magazine ,a publication from Britain, issue # 10 September 2004 ,has nice pictures on Euro Z's plus it is feature in magazine cover. their e mail////practical.classic@emap.com///they have back issues, hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koalia View Post
    I'd love to see some pictures of original style Euro 240Z's, you all know that euro versions were a bit different. Im very interested about these rims that are installed in this particular Z, are those factory rims or aftermarket? That car is a 72 model, as is the magazine. Also the front and rear spoilers intrests me.
    The wheels on the car in the magazine feature are aftermarket. They are British-made Dunlop alloy wheels, the same as those fitted as standard equipment on Reliant Scimitars of the period.

    There are lots of small detail non standard modifications to that particular car, but the front and rear spoilers were standard equipment.

    I've got some original European market brochures. I'll have to scan some of them for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HS30-H View Post
    The wheels on the car in the magazine feature are aftermarket. They are British-made Dunlop alloy wheels, the same as those fitted as standard equipment on Reliant Scimitars of the period.
    Are you sure about the wheels. I have the same wheels on my Z and I didn't see any brand name on them, however I found an advert on the 1971 french magazine 'Echappement' advertizing them as being Motolita wheels. See:
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    Is it possible that several aftermarket company made this same wheel design at that time?

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    The OMS Pace Car for 1972 had Dunlap wheels fitted.


    Our local BAP/GEON Dealer tried to order them - but they could not import them to the US because they were not US DOT approved - according to BAP/GEON.

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    I'm pretty sure the 'Moto-Lita' wheels were just a licensed re-branding of the Dunlop D4.

    At that time, Dunlop were making ( as in casting / forging ) a lot of wheels for other companies in the UK. It's quite possible that the 'Moto-Lita' wheels ( 'Moto-Lita' was actually more famous as a steering wheel manufacturer ) were just Dunlop D4s with different centre caps.

    Here are some links to info about Dunlop alloy wheels from a couple of marque specialist sites:

    http://www.sporting-reliants.com/wheel_guide.htm

    http://www.imps4ever.info/tech/wheels/index.html
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    Default MAG: Mill Accessory Group Wheels England

    Here are some "Made in England" MAG wheels that are on a local car. They look very similar to the Dunlops:



    Web Research: MAG: Mill Accessory Group
    Found some similar on French Car Forums with 914's.


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    For some reason i like those rims :P Even not "factory installed". Front and rear spoiler standard equipment? Thats interesting! Is this in all cases or was it option selected by customer? I know some real neat Z's that dont have them (that are originally imported here straight from Japan) How about the mud flaps on the rear, dealer or factory installed?

    edit: i contacted one gentlemen who owns Euro-Z, he agreed that he had spoilers too, but they were removed. Even more interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koalia View Post
    Front and rear spoiler standard equipment? Thats interesting! Is this in all cases or was it option selected by customer? I know some real neat Z's that dont have them (that are originally imported here straight from Japan) How about the mud flaps on the rear, dealer or factory installed?
    The front and rear spoilers were part of the 'Euro' ( and UK ) specification from the factory. There might have been the odd exception, or some 'parallel import' cars that did not match the factory spec 100%, but exceptions are just that - exceptions. There were certainly some minor differences between 'Euro' specs. The 'Entreposto' imported Portuguese 240Zs were a notable example.

    On the car in your original picture, the mudflaps, the extra lamps on the front, the mudflaps, the gear knob and floor mats all appear to be non-factory parts, and were probably local dealer supplied / installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Here are some "Made in England" MAG wheels that are on a local car. They look very similar to the Dunlops:

    Web Research: MAG: Mill Accessory Group
    Found some similar on French Car Forums with 914's.

    The 'M.A.G.' / Mill Accessory Group wheels are a classic case of re-branded Dunlop designed / Dunlop manufactured wheels.

    The Mill Accessory Group company was actually a merger of several other aftermarket car accessory suppliers, one of which was Paddy Hopkirk.

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    Thanks Alan,

    Carl, if you want the re-branded ones, I may be able to track the current owner.

    I brought the car ('74 2+2) back to life in 2006 for a club member to sell. I think the car and new owner (not club member) is within 100km of my home so it should be easy to track down.
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    Hi Blue:
    YES - I would be interested in buying them.
    thanks,
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    OK I'll start digging

    The guy owes me a 2400 Valve Cover too so ......maybe 5 birds with one call.
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    Scimitar GTE with optional all alloy "GT" wheels produced by Mill Accessory Group Ltd, (later referred to as Princess Anne Wheels)

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    Hi,
    I'm getting a Z soon myself. And the car is coming with those wheels. The car was owned all this time by the same person but it's not him selling the car so I can't get more info about them. (dont know if he bought them as original wheels, with the car at the dealership back the day)

    do you know if there is any interest in those wheels? 'cause I'm thinking of not keeping them..

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    Talking about Scimitar GTE.. yesterday I went looking for 14 inch mag wheels, and one guy near Amsterdam had them advertised as 114.3 PCD. Same as 240z right ? I took one of my wheels with me, but upon measuring his PCD seemed smaller like 108 , anyhow it was not the same ? Are there different PCD sizes for the GTE ?

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    Just found out the guy never had those wheels under his scimitar gte he said today, he measured the pcd on his car today and it was indeed the same as 240z PCD of 114.3. The wheels he sold where a smaller PCD, but he advertised them as GTE wheels..
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    yep, indeed 240z's PCD is 114.3. I don't know about the Scimitar's though..

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    Well I found out the Scimitar '' GTE '' has the same PCD that matches the 240z's. Also late 60's , 6 cylinder mustangs have the same PCD.
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    Good to know they both have 114.3


    Anyone knows if those MAG wheels could be orignally issued on Z's at the dealership?
    I'd like to know if those can be original or not on my Z.

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    If you have "euro" Z, Wolfrace slot mags were not issued at the dealership around here. Only in US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor View Post
    Anyone knows if those MAG wheels could be orignally issued on Z's at the dealership?
    I'd like to know if those can be original or not on my Z.
    Not officially. But some UK & European dealerships offered their own selection of aftermarket parts for the cars, just like many of the dealerships in the USA & Canada did.

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    If you have "euro" Z, Wolfrace slot mags were not issued at the dealership around here. Only in US.
    'Wolfrace' was a British company, and Wolfrace slotted alloy wheels were mostly seen on UK market cars.

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    Oh yeah, sorry, forgot to mention that my Z is French. Not a USDM one. Originally bought in Paris at the dealership, so yeah, EUDM :P

    And thanks for the input. I guess its almost impossible to know about this now.
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