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    Has anyone been down the Mulholland Race Course? I saw a movie called King of the Mountain and I am interested in seeing how the scenes in the film correlated to actual course. I believe that the movie probably didn't capture the view for sure, due to a relatively narrow field-of-view of the camera and the choppy filming technique, and it was mostly done at night.

    There are some short videos on YouTube, but most of them are awful amateur videos, with a few documentaries.

    You might call it the west-coast version of the "Tail of the Dragon."
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    Went up (North to South) Mulholland couple of years ago in the Z. Traffic was light but had to let a slow BMW roadster get way ahead, and play catch-up, to have any fun with the curves. Too much traffic to go very fast.

    Lots of twisty roads in the Hollywood hills but I drive slow when I have a job there, too much traffic. Kanan Dume Road, west of Malibu, is another nice one.

    Heard there's a 280Z in the movie.
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    The main guy says, " I hear a Z" but he's talking about a Z28 Camaro.
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    I think the Angeles crest highway looks like it would be more fun than a crowded Mulholland.
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    There was a Z car in the movies. It is seen near the end. Would anyone care to name the details (model, wheels, etc? It's obviously modded, because it sounds more a Ferrari than any standard Z.
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    There are lots of crooked roads anywhere you have hills. In the southeast there is the Blue Ridge Parkway, in N.C. or Tenn. there is "The Dragon," in Ohio we have Route 536/555. Penn. has a lot of hills & mountains, so does N.Y. or any other state near the Appalachian mountain range, and the east coast has more roads than anywhere else in the country, so you're really not far from the "twisties."

    I just happened to wonder if anyone can confirm that the Hulholland "raceway" is like what is depicted in movies. From what little I've been able to find online, I'd say it's too bad that there hasn't been a comprehensive documentary (even one that's embellished with some fictional drama) about this historical road, one that's been there since 1924, and visited by people such as Gary Cooper, James Dean, and others.

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    If you can, the next time you go up that way during the day, would it be possible to get a video recording with spoken notes ("Grandstands," "Sweeper," "Carl's" etc?)

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    And one quick map with the help of Google Maps:
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    Didn't know the curves had names - my commentary would be limited to criticism of other driver, I expect. And even if it wasn't crowded I wouldn't go really fast, since I don't know the road.

    I play FSX, and love flying 10 feet above the ground, in the super-twisty Little Grand Canyon for example, never knowing which way it's going to turn next. In the real world it's heavier.
    Didn't understand that when I was a teenager, until some kids chased a ball onto the road where I was doing a hundred in a crappy ford station wagon. Hit the brakes, did a 360, didn't hit anybody, but it cooled my wheels a little. There's safer places to street race than Mulholland Drive.

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    Every race course I've heard of has names for certain corners or ares, like Pit lane and so forth.mulholland isn't a formal race course, so obviously it's going to have the names you'd expect for a grass-roots course.

    Remember that it was originally just a scenic road overlooking Los Angeles, like a parkway, so it wasn't really meant to have the names or high speeds. I"ll bet you there are signs saying "Speed Limit 35" along the whole length, except for a few places.
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    King of the mountain 1981 (final run) - YouTube

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    Ha ha.... You'd think that with off the 'offs' they have in the area, that there would be an access road to get all the junkers out.
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    Mulholland is alright. There are much better roads in that area. Stunt, Latigo, Decker, Tuna Cyn, Encinal, etc. I think Mulholland is easy to access from LA, so the street racer kids would run up that way and that's where it got its reputation.
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    "Mulholland Race Course?" Seriously? Someone calls it that? Its a public road and heavily patrolled by the police. I ride it frequently on my Ducati going to the Rock Store and other local bars. It is not a race course by any stretch of the imagination and usually its so crowded with wankers who have no clue what they are doing you're rarely going faster then 40 mph.

    This is typical:

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    Yes, it's been called a race course or more frequently the "Mulholland raceway." It's been that way for decades.


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    By the way- what is the posted Speed Limit on that stretch of the road?
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    There is a bit of info here: What happened to the Mulholland "King of the Hill" RSR? - Pelican Parts Technical BBS about the street racing scene on Mulholland. I have not heard anything about "racing" there in a long time. The mystique associated with Mulholland seems to be more about the street racing scene that the road itself.

    Mulholland follows the ridge between Holloywood and the San Fernando Valley. There are numerous views of the city, primarily looking north into the San Fernando Valley. Driving can be fun, both for sightseeing and brisk speeds (traffic permitting) but is rather short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Coffey View Post
    "Mulholland Race Course?" Seriously? Someone calls it that? Its a public road and heavily patrolled by the police. I ride it frequently on my Ducati going to the Rock Store and other local bars. It is not a race course by any stretch of the imagination and usually its so crowded with wankers who have no clue what they are doing you're rarely going faster then 40 mph.

    This is typical:

    Harley Davidson Lowside Motorcycle Crash - YouTube
    To be fair, John, they used to actually have street races right there on the weekends. I don't know if you were ever there at the Rock Store in the 80's. They would hold traffic coming down, two bikes would line up and they would race to the viewsite where the camera was in that Harley video up on top. Wagers, the whole thing. My brother used to take me and we'd watch for a couple hours. Now it's just yuppies on parade. Go back at 3 AM and the cops are gone, BTW. That's when the real stupidity happens, and I say that as a guy who rolled a car off Decker about 1/2 mile from there at 3 AM.
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