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    Default 1970 HLS30-00765 on Ebay

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    Datsun Z Series 240Z | eBay

    Incorrect pillar emblems
    Incorrect tail pipe
    Incorrect seat pattern
    Incorrect interior taillamp access panel

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    Nice looking car! The override bars on the bumpers are not correct for the year, though. The price seems high, hope they get it!

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    The overriders were American dealer add-ons. Mine came with a set. What is not correct is the driver side door strap. Straps only came on the passenger door. I believe a driver's strap would interfere with steering.
    1971 240Z HLS30A 17574 L24-021025

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    Was the air cleaner blue on the 1970 cars? I have a February 71 car and the cleaner is orange.

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    shifter knob seems non-original
    appears to have an AM-FM radio.. not sure if FM was on early Z's
    AC added
    Odd coloured intake but correct one for the car.
    Incorrect valve cover.... may not be original engine
    Two rear hatch struts...looks like one was added
    Armrest pad added
    Door-window frame corner rubber (drivers side near lock) is missing
    Quarter window small rubber seals are missing (4)
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    Add the steering wheel to the list.
    Original Registration and Warranty Card

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank240 View Post
    Was the air cleaner blue on the 1970 cars? I have a February 71 car and the cleaner is orange.

    Hank
    If you went to the parts counter back in the day and got an air cleaner it was blue. I have one as a spare.

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    Radiator missing a decal
    Need the correct hose clamps
    Paint code decal missing
    Agree with post #5#7.

    If someone is going to pay this price, then everything, and I mean everything should be correct.
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    For $38.5K I'd expect everything on the car to be correct. The ad states the car has the original engine, so it's odd they changed the valve cover. The incorrect items on the car could easily be changed and don't really detract from the beauty of the car. It will be interesting to see what she brings, but I expect it will be closer to $30K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EhlersRS View Post
    For $38.5K I'd expect everything on the car to be correct.
    I think in the past I would have made the same statement. I do think a bit differently now. Imagine my surprise when I heard that one of the Datsun Roadsters that sold for over $50K has a dash cap. That in my opinion would be a much greater 'sin' than the items noted above. So, I am much more careful to pass judgement on price now a days. In my opinion, the more this sells for the better.

    I did want to respond to the sellers statement that I would be hard pressed to find a better example, but I will keep quiet.

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    I don't know a lot about what to look for in a restoration but the gap of the front wheels did catch my eye. Seems like the right wheel is further forward than the left, even though the wheels both seem to be pointed straight ahead. No pictures from underneath either. This would make me look closer on any car, even a cheap one.
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    Looks like a plastic cooling fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed Head View Post
    I don't know a lot about what to look for in a restoration but the gap of the front wheels did catch my eye. Seems like the right wheel is further forward than the left, even though the wheels both seem to be pointed straight ahead. No pictures from underneath either. This would make me look closer on any car, even a cheap one.
    Believe it or not - but that difference in R & L front wheels - was very common. Most people didn't notice it - until they went to a larger wheel/tire size.. Some of it could be adjusted out by shifting the lower finisher panels over a bit - but it was still there only to a lessor extent.

    Also agree - any car like this should be presented with clear pictures of the undercarriage.

    Although not really a Concours Restoration - it might check out to be a very nice 240Z - - but I'm not seeing anything close to $38K in todays market. With the minor issues - something closer to $20K might not be too bad.. {if the undercarriage holds up to inspection}.

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    I traveled from California to Upstate New York to inspect the car way back in April of 2002, when it was advertised in Hemmings Motor News. At that time the asking price was around $12-14K.

    The car had small rust bubbles on the lower rear fender (driver side, I think), which concerned me based on the asking price back then. The other turn off was that I contacted the dealership days in advance that I was flying out to see it. When I arrived the car was still sitting in an outdoor carport coated with dust and it had a dead battery. Frankly, I would have hoped they would have prep it and made sure it started before I arrived. Otherwise, other than the non-original mods others have pointed out, the car was solid. I assume that car has been repainted since I saw it last.

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    Beautiful car and I'll also be interested to see what it goes for. Regardless of its selling price, it's pretty awesome just to see a 240Z in the company of some of the other cars in those photos.
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    Someone mentioned the seat pattern is wrong. That's because the seats are wrong. The car wouldn't have had fully reclining seats until 1972.
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