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    Question ANSA tips

    Hey guys what is a good of ansa tip go for?
    1974 260z (still in shop}
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    What does a good set sell for? should have previewed that one!
    1974 260z (still in shop}
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    WingZro lists them on ebay pretty often. He'd be able to tell you. Or you could just search for ANSA, and his post'll come up.
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    Thanks! I looked at WingZro's collection I picked one up for $40 guess that was a good buy. still need one more, I'm going to run dual exhaust off my 6-2 header with purple hornies glass packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snub260 View Post
    What does a good set sell for? should have previewed that one!
    Hello All (first post in a few days).

    Awesome, glad to see another member cross over on the ANSA Camp !

    Post a few pics for me of the ANSA in question to see which kind it is and
    I'll help you out .
    Pics of the front, rear and both sides please.
    Note any part numbers you find on the wrapping or if any.

    Also take mesurements of both the inlet and outlet diameters in inches.
    Some ANSA look exactly alike but have different diameters, like for
    instance a 240Z ANSA can come in 1.75 inch diameter while the
    same ANSA but for a 260Z/280Z will come in 2 inch diameter.

    40 bucks is a good price for an ANSA, NOS or other wise.
    They sell on ebay between that and 100 on average just for the resonator tip only.
    ANSA even made headers along with the complet exhaust line set, not sure if they
    still make headers though these days.

    Most reasonator tips are universal and come in at least 2 different diameter sizes
    rangeing from 1.75 upto 3 inches in my experinece regarding vintage ones.
    Some of the model specific ones can get expensive when put on
    the open market like my 2nd to last NOS one I sold last January sized for
    260Z/280Z.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&ss
    pagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190193616207&rd=1


    Most of the early vintage ANSA's (1st era) are painted Orange inside
    the outlet pipes.
    Then after that era came the Gloss Black paint in the outlet pipes (2nd era)
    but with the same over all outward appearence as the previous 1st era minus the
    red tape rippon on around the chrome.
    At least one type of 2nd era ANSA I know of (pictured below) came in both a Black and
    a Grayish Silver outlet paint color giving 2 color styles.
    The red rippon was not on all 1st era ANSA's but disappeared during the 2nd.
    Also keep in mind that the sticker logo remained the same.
    (comparison pics below are clickable)
    1st era ANSA style
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    If I can't find it I should be able to at least tell you how hard, rare or
    easy it is to get your particular version and good places to look for one,
    Dual exhuast 'ill look SiC !

    HUGE DISCLAIMER HERE
    -> ANSA goes back to at least 1959 and my terms for "era" along with
    start and cut off dates between them are as best I can figure from study of
    the designs and comparing them to each other based on manufacture dates along with
    some research !
    1st era - 1960's to at least 1974 when the model specific 260Z ANSA's were
    released.
    2nd era - mid to late 1970's to around 1985 when Slash Cut Tip style was
    said to be discountinued as a fact.
    3rd era - the current one we are in now IMO. ~Z~

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    Towyards, swap meets and flee markets are great places to find them.
    Even garage sales were you suspect some car parts are lying around.

    The two 2nd era versions I had above were found at a swap met being sold as
    a Mopar item I believe.
    They were the 2.75 inch inlet types which is why they made good for Mopars.
    They are now happily fitted to a 240Z and the other on a 510

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    Here's some pics.
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    1974 260z (still in shop}
    2004 lincholn Ls {daily driver}
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    Ahh, so your the guy who got that one ^_^

    I was thinking about getting that for my new '88 Acura Legend but did not bid,
    good buy there.
    That same seller had two more of those he previously sold.
    So that makes 5 I've seen with that style and size if you count the 2 I had.

    You can talk to a cat named Joedro on Ebay, he's selling a pair right now
    in the same size and style type.
    You may be able to haggle 1 away from him and split the pair if he's willing.
    Link ->
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrair-Maserati-Lamborghini-Aston
    -Matrin-2-Ansa-Twin_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42606QQihZ015
    QQitemZ250225268808QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


    I'll see if I can get them aswell but won't know for sure till
    at least Thursday, jus so you know I may not be able to find that
    style yet though.
    So if you really like that set up that'd be the way to go and
    you'll own 3 of the 5 NOS ones I know of to date.

    FYI when polishing the chrome use a non abrasive cloth or T-shirt and don't
    rub to deep or hard.
    And stay away from the sticker if polishing fast, or you will bend or dent the
    edges of the sticker which can not be easily flattend out to shape.
    And those mufflers are even nicer in person than the pictures look !

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    I already have the high bid on those two
    1974 260z (still in shop}
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    I see you won your bid, Congradulations!
    Post those pics when you get them mounted
    Speeding is fun,
    As long as you out run,
    The cops! ! !

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    will do! that means I have a extra one
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    Default 1st Era style!

    NEED.... to get my hands on a set of those over/under slash cut 1st Era style tips. WingZro, I PM'd you about those... My 260Z has them now but need a new set (if I can find 'em) for the new exhaust!


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    Hey, Rainman, is that a Falcon you drive?
    First & Third owner of HLS30-00721
    B. 01/70 D. 03/12

    New owner of HLS30-15653
    B. 12/70 D.

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    That is a Falcon alright, the latest and greatest... the 7X. I wish I was driving one of those!! Someday. For now I'm in Citation Jets and Learjets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman View Post
    NEED.... to get my hands on a set of those over/under slash cut 1st Era style tips. WingZro, I PM'd you about those... My 260Z has them now but need a new set (if I can find 'em) for the new exhaust!
    Hello Rainman
    PM recieved, I sent off for the last of all the NOS ones I could get hold of
    through my cantacts and they should arrive in about a month from now.
    Supllies is extreamly extreamly small and I'll be keeping some for myself of course .
    They are the 260Z/280Z size as described above.

    I'll let ya'll now when they arrive and Falcons are TIGHT .
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    WOoooo HOooooooo!!!

    I knew I could count on WingZro!! Love that early Ansa stuff!!

    Thanks my man, you made my night!

    Tom


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    Heloo ^_^

    Posting some ANSA stickers I found.

    The 1st one is a really big fender decal and I have 2 of those and
    the race car version is the reverse window style and two of those aswell ^_^
    I think there pretty cool and they're NOS Vintage aswell and not reproductions.
    Don't know who the Crocodile Club was though.
    And the last one is one of the famous muffler decals on the actual mufflers.





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    New ANSA Twin Stacks finally scheduled to arrive tomorrow on
    7/16 ^_^ ! ! ! ! YAYYYYYY......

    WoHOO !
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    Good information!
    I was at pick-n-pull today and found a 240z with some Ansa exhausts (which I immediately remembered WingZr0's posts here). All in all, I got the exhaust for $9.99!

    I am happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david04 View Post
    Good information!
    I was at pick-n-pull today and found a 240z with some Ansa exhausts (which I immediately remembered WingZr0's posts here). All in all, I got the exhaust for $9.99!

    I am happy.
    Y0u LUCKY DOG U !
    Now thats a rare find! Congradulations ^_^

    I saw you ove Hybridz and thought "amazing".

    If you ever need some cleaning up / restoration tips just let me
    know by emailing or posting a few pics.
    I also should be able to get some NOS little "ANSA" stickers for the
    chrome section part of it for you for free I you ever need them.
    WOW, greaaat pick and nice pull

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    Quote Originally Posted by snub260 View Post
    Thanks! I looked at WingZro's collection I picked one up for $40 guess that was a good buy. still need one more, I'm going to run dual exhaust off my 6-2 header with purple hornies glass packs.
    $40 ?! Wow, not a bad deal. I thought these were going for a few hundred!

    Are these a total replacement for the muffler ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    $40 ?! Wow, not a bad deal. I thought these were going for a few hundred!

    Are these a total replacement for the muffler ?

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    1st yes they are total replacemt for the stock muffler unless marked
    specifically as a "tip only" piece.
    Alot of the ones your see in the low $40 to $125 are the
    universal type that will work on any car while at the same time
    improving performance by simply free up the stock mufflers restrictiveness.

    The Twin Stack ones like the ones I currently am selling do go for the
    higher range simple becouse it was SPECIFICALLY desinged for
    the S30Z serious of Datsun cars and no other.
    Add the fact it looks cool and is rare in style and also rare for being
    made soley for our Z's

    What goes with the specificness is the methode ANSA uses when making
    a Sport Resonator is the make several prototypes in a ongoing precess to
    not only come up with the best sound but to also get the best performance
    out the enigne.
    Mainly the sound is what they're known for as the "ANSA Roar" as
    it was once marketed.
    The sound is tested by attaching the resonator then placeing a bunch of
    microphones around the car in stretegic locations to record the
    sound waves and presure levels to see which and where each
    sound wave and frequency is coming from.
    And how the body of the car (panels and such) affect them.
    This info alowes them to make better prototypes untill they create the
    resonator they like which meets the standards is ready for production.

    I read this one a ANSA site some where basicaly word for word
    but can't find the page now, it might be off the net this time.
    But heres another site that has the history and similar info as well.
    Notice the site is from the U.K. and seems to of stop updating in 1998!

    http://www.ansamarmitte.it/MRKINGL/UK12.HTM

    "1959 ANSA begins production of sport exhaust systems.
    In these years competitions are frequent along the streets and in the
    squares; "ROAR" does not bother the audience and excites the drivers.

    1968 The increase of traffic and high performing engines influence the
    design of the exhaust systems; reducing the sound and increasing the power
    are primary goals for ANSA.

    1970 ANSA’s experience is helpful to popular performance car companies
    such as FERRARI, LAMBORGHINI, MASERATI, DE TOMASO and BUGATTI.
    "The noise becomes the sound".

    1972 To underline the performances of these cars and direct the market is
    our daily challenge. But some areas like California begin requiring quieter and
    cleaner exhaust emissions.

    1974 ANSA’s persistance and technology allow us to homologate for the
    American market the Ferrari 246 and Ferrari Daytona catalytic converter
    equipped cars without compromising their performances.

    1990 The design of exhaust systems has totally changed. Engines exploit
    most of their potential and only by analysing prarameters such
    as compression, fluidity, temperatures, frequences, sound levels and gas
    composition one can obtain performance increase of 5% to 15%.

    1996 This is not the end! The research which has transformed the
    exhaust systems from a simple pipe and silencer to a primary component of
    the car is working in ANSA. And we are only at the beginning of the next
    revolution!

    1998 ......................"



    Theres a more detailed lsit of the man who actually started the company
    which I might of posted the link to elsewhere and can't find now.
    But the creator was a racer who made his own exhaust and friends like
    his set up so well they had him make theirs as well whitch eventualy
    led to him making exhaust for Ferrari then Maserati.
    And in the '70's, after supplying most Euro auto makers as O.E., branched
    out into the Asian and U.S. markets to make the Twin Stacks we see for
    our Z cars now.

    There was at least from best I can research 3 different S30Z ANSA's, all
    in both 240Z and 260Z/280Z stock diameter sizes for the inlet side.
    All made as bolt installation with no welding required.

    ANSA's dropped off the rader IMO for the most part in the 1980's but
    most of the older guys form the days when Z cars where new in the
    70's remember the sound pretty well, just ask member NissanMaster
    All people who owned one of heard them befor always have positeve
    comments in my experience.
    Now when is my Z gonna be done so I can experience this, "ROAR!"

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    i actually just got my first 240z just over 2 months ago and i have some knock offs on mine. does anybody know much about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pukegreenz View Post
    i actually just got my first 240z just over 2 months ago and i have some knock offs on mine. does anybody know much about them?
    Yep just search for B&C Industries and they'll turn up in a ANSA descussion.

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    I ran Ansa exhausts on several cars back in the early eighties. Loved the sound and the look, but the durability of their mufflers sucked. The dang things rusted internally in very short order. I've had them last 13-18 months here in Oregon (no road salt), with a 12 month warranty. Not something that makes me want to have them again these days, even though I expect the glass-packed tips like these may last far longer than true mufflers did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne View Post
    I ran Ansa exhausts on several cars back in the early eighties. Loved the sound and the look, but the durability of their mufflers sucked. The dang things rusted internally in very short order. I've had them last 13-18 months here in Oregon (no road salt), with a 12 month warranty. Not something that makes me want to have them again these days, even though I expect the glass-packed tips like these may last far longer than true mufflers did.
    WoW
    That may explain the lack of them out pick in pulls
    I lived in Oregon / Washington state a long time when I was little and the
    only time it didn't rain was one whole month in the summer and even
    then it drizzled a few times.
    Wheather totally sucks there
    The few I seen here in Califiornia held up pretty well, just old and dusty.
    But then again not much rain here but once 2 weeks ago and it's
    already nearing November.
    Sunshine State! And TONS of Datsuns !

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingZr0 View Post
    I lived in Oregon / Washington state a long time when I was little and the
    only time it didn't rain was one whole month in the summer and even
    then it drizzled a few times.
    Wheather totally sucks there
    Not even close. We've had a total of 3-4 days of any precip this summer. Typically, it's dry as all get out from July through the end of September, and often clear into October. Yes, it's wet over the Winter and Spring, but it rarely freezes here, and there's no road salt. Many of us here in Western Oregon drive our Zs year-round. Don't really need A/C in the summer, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne View Post
    Not even close. We've had a total of 3-4 days of any precip this summer. Typically, it's dry as all get out from July through the end of September, and often clear into October. Yes, it's wet over the Winter and Spring, but it rarely freezes here, and there's no road salt. Many of us here in Western Oregon drive our Zs year-round. Don't really need A/C in the summer, either.
    It's been awhile since I lived there, your right summers are pretty dry
    but the last vacation I took to Vancouver, Washington / Portland, Oregon
    was a few years ago in the 1st day of July and I left on the 1st of August.
    It was raining hard in dreary the day I got there and stoped for the month,
    except for 2 or 3 drizzles, and went back to dark and dreary rain again the
    day I left.

    That was my first trip back after living in Cali and here I don't recal when
    it ever rained in a summer month.
    Just thought it odd to see that kind of rain in July.
    When I got back home though my dad said he, my cousin and Uncle
    would watch wheater channel and lough when I was raining out !
    Watching that Doppler Raddar

    But alas it's a nice place to live with the evergreens but it's just too
    cold for me.
    Thats why I'll never go back to Indiana, try those winters

    ~Z~
    Speeding is fun,
    As long as you out run,
    The cops! ! !

    ~Z~ Seek Truth

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