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    Exclamation Rear Hatch Weatherstripping help needed!

    The body shop is putting the 1971 Fairlady Z (JDM 240Z) back together and don't have a clue about the rear hatch weatherstripping!!!
    Is there any weatherstripping actually put onto the rear hatch itself or is it all on the body?
    Is there a description or diagram somewhere I could look at?
    I'm afraid they are screwing it all up!!! HELP PLEASE!!!
    Thank you!

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    I'm not really sure of what are you asking about.. but I'd like to help with this attachment..

    if it is not what are you asking about just ignore it..

    good luck with the Fairlady..
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    Thank you! Looks like something is glued on the upper corners of the hatch itself.

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    If you're talking about #7 rubber corners, they are listed for 280z 2+2's only. What part exactly are you having trouble with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrigan View Post
    The body shop is putting the 1971 Fairlady Z (JDM 240Z) back together and don't have a clue about the rear hatch weatherstripping!!!
    You need these parts from Nissan:
    76910-N3000
    76911-N3000
    76911-N3000

    See the attached diagram. This is what my Nissan parts guy told me, and it works well.....

    The rear hatch outer gutter weatherstrips have changed since the original 240Z type was produced. The only one available now (since 1978 actually) is the 260-280 type. The vertical pieces on those do not touch the hatch, the rubber is only there to cover the sharp edge of the gutter seam.

    My trick is to take two upper pieces which are still made like the original and cut straight sections out of them to use on the sides. That way the material is just like the 240 style all the way around. You will need to join the pieces carefully using weatherstrip cement and some small tubing that fits inside the tubular section of the top and side pieces. This will keep the ends of the sections butted together properly.
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    U DA MAN!!! Thanks!!!

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    Hey good diagram, that makes sense to me now too.

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    The diagram looks to me to be exactly the same as the Black Dragon diagram posted by Mohamed. They use the Precision aftermarket kit and parts 5 and 6 even show exactly the same profile as in the hand-drawn diagram.
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    When I did mine last year I took the hatch off because it helped get to the upper wheatherstrip better. Once you get it glued on dont close the hatch for a day or two or the weather strip will get pulled out of place on the lower edge. Also loosen your latch on the frame just a tad to allow more space for the new weatherstrip. Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeW View Post
    The diagram looks to me to be exactly the same as the Black Dragon diagram posted by Mohamed. They use the Precision aftermarket kit and parts 5 and 6 even show exactly the same profile as in the hand-drawn diagram.
    Ya, but he gets extra marks for drawing the cross section, and coloring in the lines too. A for effort, he deserves a happy face sticker

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRE-240Z View Post
    You need these parts from Nissan:
    76910-N3000
    76911-N3000
    76911-N3000

    See the attached diagram. This is what my Nissan parts guy told me, and it works well.....

    The rear hatch outer gutter weatherstrips have changed since the original 240Z type was produced. The only one available now (since 1978 actually) is the 260-280 type. The vertical pieces on those do not touch the hatch, the rubber is only there to cover the sharp edge of the gutter seam.

    My trick is to take two upper pieces which are still made like the original and cut straight sections out of them to use on the sides. That way the material is just like the 240 style all the way around. You will need to join the pieces carefully using weatherstrip cement and some small tubing that fits inside the tubular section of the top and side pieces. This will keep the ends of the sections butted together properly.

    BRE-240Z,

    I believe that Mike at Banzai Motorworks, www.zzxdatsun.com, has the outer hatch weatherstrip for the early 240Z in reproduction form. It has the tubular cross section all the way around the hatch gutter. It would be a lot easier than piecing together the original upper pieces. Just a suggestion.

    Dan

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    Bryan, you may have inverted the part references.

    According to the microfiche (Club CD) the 3 part (2 P/N) outer weatherstrip was in use to at least July 76.

    IIRC it was explained to me that the two side pieces couldn't be had or sourced but the center piece could be, and that using the center piece extended to fit both sides was not a problem.

    Your explanation is excellent otherwise, good diagram too.

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    the diagram drawn by BRE-240Z looks to me exactly the same as the parts I got from VB (well.. black dragon) the profile is the same but the question is weather they have the same quality from VB and Nissan's dealer..

    and for sure, it can be a matter of price $$!
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    word of advice , be sure you use orginal Nissan parts and not the ones from Black Dragon. I recently restored my 77 and used the seals from Black Dragon. They are much thicker than the originals and now the rear hatch does not close flush with the side panels.

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    Ended up using the gasket set by Precision, which is okay. Little bigger than the Nissan set, but about $1000 less expensive. At least that's the best deals I could find after looking for quite a while. I do have a Nissan hatch set, but it's the same size as the Precision. The hatch still sits up a little, but a lot of the body panels that were removed for painting were not aligned correctly by the body shop when they reassembled the car. Nissan dealer body shop here has an old guy who seems to know how to do the re-aligning, so I'm going to give that a crack. Neither door locks will work, although the doors look to be hung correctly.
    One lives and learns I guess ...

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