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    The story begins here, in Gothenburg...

    This is my 1971 240z when I picked it up after arriving in Gothenburg from
    Chicago. E"verything" looked "well" - and met my expectations from the pics
    in the ebay auction. However - the "rust free" turned out to be a big hoax...

    Anyway, after getting it up on the trailer and taking it home to Stockholm
    it was unloaded at a friends company - called Speedworks where I assume most of the
    mechanical mischief will take place once the car's been restored. The engine
    was fired up (or rather jump-started since the ignition wires had been yanked
    from it's original place) - picure below.


    Vidcap-picture of the car at Speedworks.

    The engine wasn't running like it was new, but at least it was running. Not
    that it mattered much anyway - the car wouldn't have made it through an
    inspection by the swedish "DMV" anyway. As I soon learned, the floor pans
    were replaced by a hopeless heap of fiberglass, riveted and bolted pieces of
    metal. Click the links below for images of the so called floor...
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...t-Hugo/b12.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...t-Hugo/b13.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...t-Hugo/b14.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...um185/01_G.jpg

    I continued to strip the car of... everything. That was the plan from the start
    pretty much, so a "little rust" wouldn't discourage me. When I removed the
    dashcap - I was surprised - I have never seen a more messed up dash than this!


    Anyway - I got in contact with a company called SCE - Swedish Composite
    Engineering - and they will be helping out with molding/making a lot on this
    car from carbon fibre. So far the planned parts incluce: The hood, cowl plate,
    service hatches, front fenders, doors, rear hatch, center console, dash and
    the tail light plates. Since I don't want to completely "out source" the job I'll
    be present during the production of the parts, hopefully learning something


    Since the car was all together nasty, I figured having it sand blasted would
    be the most reasonable thing to do. Said and done - Doors were sent packing.
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...00_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...01_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...02_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...03_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...05_G.sized.jpg


    I think they came back alright... As did the other small parts I sent every
    now and then - including the cowl plate, tail light plates, fenders, etc.
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...01_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...02_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...03_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...04_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...05_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...01_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...02_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...03_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...04_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...05_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...06_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...07_G.sized.jpg

    After a while, there wasn't much more to dismount from the car, looking like this:


    A rotisserie stand was made by Speedworks, from the blueprints of a friend:
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...00_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...02_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...06_G.sized.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...11_G.sized.jpg

    Since some parts weren't feeling to good, I called in the reinforcements,
    ordering parts from a company called Meca. Tabco wouldn't even reply
    to my e-mails even though I had placed an order. Very poor service IMO.


    Pictures of the actual parts are here:
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...se/delar01.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...se/delar02.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...se/delar03.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...se/delar04.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...se/delar05.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/alb...se/delar06.jpg

    So - that's about it. As of now the car stands knee deep in sand at Allblästring
    (the sand blasting company) waiting for me to pick it up, but I'm not going
    to be able to during this week. Bugger


    More pics:
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/01_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/03_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/04_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/05_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/06_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/07_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/08_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/09_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/10_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/11_G.jpg
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/12_G.jpg

    Parts from ZEDD FINDINGS, yay!
    http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/dag32/13_G.jpg

    The front frame rails will be replaced, along with a bunch of sheet metal.
    I got 4 square meters of 20 gauge sheet metal standing by to fill in all the
    gaps. Will probably buy a bunch of 18 gauge as well... When all the rust
    has been cut away and replaced with healthy new metal, the car will be
    hauled back to sand blasting to blast the welds, etc. The entire car will
    be painted with POR-15 silver (I know what Escalon [spelling?] thinks of
    it - but I've been told by the resellers of POR-15 Germany that it'll be fine
    as long as the surface is rough (go over it with block sanding). I'm being
    sponsored by the swedish reseller of POR-15, so I reckon It'll be alright.


    To be continued...
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    The project has been up and running for about 6 months in total. Started
    out late november last year. If you want to see more pictures and learn
    some swedish, check out this thread on Zatzy.com:
    http://www.zatzy.com/showthread.php?t=190127
    It's got nearly 110.000 views and 900+ posts...

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    Phillip

    I think you are brave/committed/demented to take on a project like that.

    I hope you didn't pay much for it despite it being 'rust-free'


    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by abas
    Phillip

    I think you are brave/committed/demented to take on a project like that.

    I hope you didn't pay much for it despite it being 'rust-free'


    Andrew
    I paid about $2000 for it ... not knowing it was this rusty

    If I would've known, I'd gotten two

    Anyway, I got good connections with welders, electricians, tuners, etc
    so it's not that much of a problem putting it all together again. It's just
    gonna take a little longer ...

    It's gonna make one hell of a Z some day

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    All the updates are available in Swedish on my project forum:
    http://forums.voodoo-people.com/mull/index.php
    You who may not know Swedish - there are a lot of pics
    in the updates! =)

    As of now there's only one piece of english on the forum
    and that's the write up... I think I prefer the one here.
    It has more pics ^_^
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    Stoved away in my garage

    The car has now been moved from Stockholm to SCE in Norrköping (~170 km).

    I made a small movie about it...


    http://www.kazeumi.com/hosted/mull/mull@sce.avi
    http://racemovie.mine.nu/movies/mull/mull@sce.avi

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    Doors welded, grinded and waiting for POR-15:



    More short flicks here:
    >>>>>>>> http://racemovie.mine.nu/movies/mull/mull@sce2.avi

    >>>>>>>> http://racemovie.mine.nu/movies/mull/mull@stefan.avi
    fast mirror: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/MULL@stefan.avi

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    Damn man, you beat me to it. I was going to make a carbon fiber dash and tail light plate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theianmonster
    Damn man, you beat me to it. I was going to make a carbon fiber dash and tail light plate...
    Dash and tail light plate has already been done before...

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    Thumbs up Its gona be really nicec when its done.

    nice work. Now that is the right way to restore a car. Keep us updated! Are you going for the stock look or what? What are ur plans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemmerguy714
    nice work. Now that is the right way to restore a car. Keep us updated! Are you going for the stock look or what? What are ur plans?
    Thanks

    Yeah - it's gonna go pretty much along the lines of "stock look" ...

    I'm definetly not going for chrome rims, lots of plastic, scoops everywhere, neon, aluminium wings, etc...

    There's gonna be heaps of carbon fiber on it - that's for sure at least

    By the way, Video Part #3 is out: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/mull@sce3.avi
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    Quote Originally Posted by mull
    Thanks

    Yeah - it's gonna go pretty much along the lines of "stock look" ...

    I'm definetly not going for chrome rims, lots of plastic, scoops everywhere, neon, aluminium wings, etc...

    There's gonna be heaps of carbon fiber on it - that's for sure at least

    By the way, Video Part #3 is out: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/mull@sce3.avi

    Carbon Fiber is a nice touch. PICS WHEN ITS DONE!!!!!

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    Got a little something yesterday



    Solvent, metal ready, tie-coat primer, metal mask,
    marine clean, epoxy putty, por patch, por-15 silver,
    por-15 semi gloss black & por-15 clear.

    Might come in handy when dealing with this rusty heap :P
    Last edited by mull; 07-13-2005 at 11:54 AM.

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    After looking at this project, my '71 "rust free" California 240Z was a creme puff. I had a bit of surface rust under the battery and that was it. I guess I was just lucky. Good luck in saving this rusty ol'Datsun. Another one SAVED!
    Z Saint, the vintage racer! I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    Another one SAVED!
    It's getting there!

    Here are some vidcaps from the video called MULL@SCE3.avi ...

    The hatch plate was all eaten through by rust. Out with the old. In with
    the new! Many thanks to Zedd Findings for keeping great parts in stock!



    The hatch was fixed. The molds for the carbon won't come off no wreck
    as long as I have a say in the matter /The perfectionist.

    :: Click to zoom ::

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    I know everyone knows this, but... Please caulk the car whenever you put on new panels. I had the rear deck replaced because it was bubbling in the right corner. I sealed it up big time before it was painted. There will not be any water seeping into my z. It is very water tight. I sealed the side vents, too. Water just seeps in these places and eventually rusts the metal. I hope you are doing the same on your car. No one wants this to happen again in another 15 years. Seal it for eternity, is my motto!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    Seal it for eternity, is my motto!
    Indeed it will be

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    what kind of caulk do you recommend?

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    Guess I'm spoiled here in Arizona... bought 2 240 Z project cars (70 and 72) that had been sitting 10+ years and no rust to speak of... 72 for $700 and 70 for $400. You are a braver man than I.
    72 240Z desert survivor white original but interior gutted
    70 240Z HLS3007969 Series 1 8/70 earliest known Automatic being restored

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    New movie; The short story on how I got my Z - and fetching it. And stripping it. And sending it to be sand blasted

    http://racemovie.mine.nu/movies/mull....beginning.avi
    http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mu....beginning.avi (fast mirror)


    Quote Originally Posted by kurtwwalters
    Guess I'm spoiled here in Arizona... bought 2 240 Z project cars (70 and 72) that had been sitting 10+ years and no rust to speak of... 72 for $700 and 70 for $400. You are a braver man than I.
    Wicked! That's dirt cheap. You know, if I was living in the US, I'd have at
    least 5 240z's sitting in a garage. Over here, there's about 50 or so in total,
    registered, cruising around. Average cost is about $7.000 or so
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    Since I got a PM pointing out how there's no bends or anything in the floor (there are
    actually - near the rocker panels there's 3 bends) I thought I might point out that the
    floors aren't finished. Haven't gotten my rotissery shipped to the workshop yet.

    When I do - these will be added underneath - as well as a sub frame.



    Plus, the mounting "beams" for the seats will do their part...

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    Default mixed pics...


    The new battery tray is taking form...


    Rust cut away and replaced with new metal - welds to be introduced to the grinder...


    Same as above, drivers side!


    Grind grind grind...


    Some POR-15 applied =)


    The metal plate with the X was 6 mm thick (!!!)...


    ...and behind it, this was hiding - a bloody hinge! Decision to make new rails came swiftly.


    Reinforcement for the hatch plate...


    ...mounted in this pic.

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    Love it love it love it.

    Keep the updates coming. I'm really enjoying following this restoration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virto
    Love it love it love it.

    Keep the updates coming. I'm really enjoying following this restoration.
    Thanks

    Then you ought to check these links out, just right click and "save as" ...

    Size varies from about 45 mb to 160 mb ... Quality's 10/10 though

    01: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mu....beginning.avi
    02: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/MULL@SCE.avi
    03: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/MULL@SCE2.avi
    04: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/MULL@stefan.avi
    05: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/mull@sce3.avi
    06: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mu...l%2540sce4.avi
    07: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/mull@stefan2.avi
    08: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mu...l%2540sce5.avi
    09: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/MULL@SCE6.avi
    10: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/MULL@SCE7.avi
    11: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/mull@sce8.avi
    12: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/mull@sce9.avi
    13: http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mull/MULL@SCE10.avi


    Or - check out this link >> CLICK ME! =)

    Updates (in swedish, yes I know...) but with tons more pictures.


    edit: Added #13 here as well.
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    Mull,
    Excellent, what more can I say, except keep up the good work.
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    I say where, I say where the heck is the money coming from to do this very extensive restoration? I took my '71 all apart had some of it media blasted and painted inside and out. It took me 14 months to complete. I would NEVER have tried to do this Z. What a monsterous job. I have passed the movies of your resto onto a buddy of mine that has shorted, sectioned and chopped a '36 Ford tudor sedan. He will fully appreciate the work that you are doing. Keep the movies coming. Can't wait to see it when it is completed.
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    Philip, those clips were great. The music was great also, made me dig out an old Prodigy cd and throw it in the truck!! That was better than any fabricating video. It really helped my welding and now I see how to do my battery area. Thanks for the posts, really enjoyed watching each one. My wife now thinks I am insane!!
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    I'm really happy to read all the positive comments! Thanks!!

    Really glad you like the project! Stay tuned! =)

    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    I say where, I say where the heck is the money coming from to do this very extensive restoration? I took my '71 all apart had some of it media blasted and painted inside and out. It took me 14 months to complete. I would NEVER have tried to do this Z. What a monsterous job. I have passed the movies of your resto onto a buddy of mine that has shorted, sectioned and chopped a '36 Ford tudor sedan. He will fully appreciate the work that you are doing. Keep the movies coming. Can't wait to see it when it is completed.
    The money? Oh, armed robbery of course... Just kidding. I put
    down just about every penny I make on this project. Hope your friend enjoys
    the movies! Believe me - I can't wait to see it when it's completed either
    Quote Originally Posted by ncz
    My wife now thinks I am insane!!
    Don't "all" females think that of us who love our four wheel friends?
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    Speaking of which - I got a little something for my sweetheart today. All the
    way from the US. Order was shipped this monday - and arrived a couple of
    hours after lunch today, wednesday. That's fast... Thanks FedEx and PBZ


    YEY!


    Size-reference? The cell is 12 gallons
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    Nice work... the videos are very entertaining

    The guy who sold you that car under those pretenses needs to have his ass kicked. REALLY.

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    Default You made rust fun.

    http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=19900


    Stumbled across your excellent videos yesterday. Two things:

    1) They are incredibly well done

    2) We definitely need more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruez
    Nice work... the videos are very entertaining

    The guy who sold you that car under those pretenses needs to have his ass kicked. REALLY.
    Thanks man!

    Duh, tell me about it ... I was pretty frustrated when I got the car back from
    the sand blasting company! Not a whole lot to do about it though - but to
    clinch my teeth together and deal with it
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJ
    http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=19900


    Stumbled across your excellent videos yesterday. Two things:

    1) They are incredibly well done

    2) We definitely need more.
    1: Thanks alot

    2: More is definetly coming... From start to finish. Promise!

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    Here are some pics of the latest and greatest. Video is en route during the week hopefully


    Last picture showing the original... Crap


    ...Chop chop...


    ...Buh'bye now


    Mounts stripped from the original frame rails


    Welded to the passenger side fire wall!


    Inside/front (passenger side) - sweet stuff

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    Johan - guilty - welding deluxe He holds a license.


    Sewing it together...


    ...Subframe's shaping up


    ...inside...

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    ...welding's done


    Subframe coming along


    Johan + Hugo = true? Either way, he loves his welds


    Floor's been cut and adjusted for welding/grinding


    Cover to keep stock look and to keep dirt out.

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    Moving along...

    Subframe is 10 gauge metal: 60x30 mm
    Frame rails are 10 gauge as well: 60x60 mm
    Floors are 16 gauge...

    Should be pretty sturdy...

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    Once again, completely AWESOME.

    Wish I could have a front frame job like that. Put your welders in a box and ship them to me. I'll pay them in beer!

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    This is going to be a new car with a new frame and a bit of used sheet metal. You guys are doing a heck of a job on this resto. I am pleased to be on the list of 'watchers'. Go dogs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mull
    Thanks man!

    Duh, tell me about it ... I was pretty frustrated when I got the car back from
    the sand blasting company! Not a whole lot to do about it though - but to
    clinch my teeth together and deal with it
    I understand how you feel, I have the same kind of attitude and if your anything like me, which from the looks of it you definately are, then you'll build a top quality car.

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    How are you putting the frame together? Do you have a stock car to measure? A jig? How did you know where to mount the stress rod receivers? In case you have forgotten how it goes together, here it is!
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    I'm coming in late here, but this looks like a $100,000 restoration project. When you start calling composite companies, well uh..... what can I say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    How are you putting the frame together? Do you have a stock car to measure? A jig? How did you know where to mount the stress rod receivers? In case you have forgotten how it goes together, here it is!
    Thanks for the pictures, impressive! Looks very pretty!

    Stock measurements were taken from the original rails before they got
    chopped up - I would like to think they're accurate enough (?)

    Oh... By the way, I think I've neglected to post this screen shot from a
    "video in progress" showing the new engine block.



    It's a Nismo N1-RB26 block. Recieving a 0.4 mm bore/ 0.1 mm honing in the
    video. Waiting for some more video-material to wrap it one up and post it.

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    What head will you be using? Carburetion? Induction?
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    Big fan of you're video's and project as well. But i must ask, are these your buddies working with you on this, or are you paying these people?

    That looks like one expensive project if it's the latter...

    In any event, Keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    What head will you be using? Carburetion? Induction?
    Starting out using the stock head. Injection - no carbs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayru
    Big fan of you're video's and project as well. But i must ask, are these your buddies working with you on this, or are you paying these people?

    That looks like one expensive project if it's the latter...

    In any event, Keep up the good work.
    Building a fast street/race-car is never cheap - but since I've managed
    to squeeze some sponsors into the build - makes it somewhat less expensive.

    Bottom line: they're getting paid. But hey, money was made for spending
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    I know the RB260 is a twin cam... Will you be using Solexes or will it be injected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    I know the RB260 is a twin cam... Will you be using Solexes or will it be injected?
    My bet would be injected... much easier to tune.



    errr... scratch that.... to: More tunable
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    I know the RB260 is a twin cam... Will you be using Solexes or will it be injected?
    Quote Originally Posted by mull
    Starting out using the stock head. Injection - no carbs.
    There ya go
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    WTF is Pimp My Ride?


    POR-15 + dust = true.


    18"? Chrome? Bling? Is that something you eat?


    Subframe connects to the rear


    More rust fixed, yey!


    Handsome!


    Floor fixed

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    Closing time =)


    Richard, welding!


    So pretty


    Charming


    Hugo thought the plastic made him look younger.

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    OK, I be the first one... I do not feel your wheel and tire combo will work. Too narrow a track and not enough tire. Your slip angle will be terrible! Now if you are a dirfter...! Naw, you're a gripper, I'm sure!

    What great workmanship! These guys are doing a heckofajob. Keep the pics coming.
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    No camber adjustment either!

    Keep up the excellent work Phillip, can't wait to see it finished.

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    HAha! I managed killing one of the rear wheels by sitting my fat a$$
    down on the passenger side rocker panel. Bugger! Time to lose weight

    Anyway! Here's the video from the last update.

    >> http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mu...ull@hugo13.wmv

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    Screen cap from upcoming video, some paint and clear coat being added to
    the dash in order to make the mold for the carbon fiber dash. Dash will most
    likely be messed up when removing the mold (since the vinyl isn't attached
    that good in some places, etc) so don't get too angry or attached to the
    color of choice

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    Hi there.. links to your vids made it to a forum for the other side of the Classic Japanese fence .. and I just had to pop in here and say 'cool'.

    Love the videos and the determination to carry on. I just pulled apart my '75 Celica to fix a "tiny" bit of rust only to discover a massive amount more work and a lot of previous owners' hack repairs (though no hinges or 6mm thick steel welded in yet).. so Im quite familiar with that feeling.

    I look forward to seeing this complete, and watching more video progress reports

    cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by celica-fiend
    [text]
    Thanks a bunch

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    I ordered some goodies today, N1 water pump and N1 oil pump. Yummie : )


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    Some candy arrived at PBZ today!



    Two mysterious boxes, I wonder what's inside?


    I have NO clue as to what's in this one ; )


    Whaddayaknow! Pistons! : )


    Yep, I'll be damned - PISTONS!


    Crower connecting rods...


    ...yum : )

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    Are you putting an RB26 engine in it?

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    Dude, I'd pay you to help work on that project! It looks like so much fun.

    When you have a welder in hand and a load of sheetmetal, you feel like nothing can go wrong, haha!

    Looks like a lot of work though. I sure hope you've got the stamina to keep up the work till the end. Maybe some loud music and some energy drinks would do the trick too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav240z
    Are you putting an RB26 engine in it?
    Umm.... Yeah, that's why I posted a picture of my
    N1-RB26 engine block a couple of posts earlier...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pennyman
    Dude, I'd pay you to help work on that project! It looks like so much fun.

    When you have a welder in hand and a load of sheetmetal, you feel like nothing can go wrong, haha!

    Looks like a lot of work though. I sure hope you've got the stamina to keep up the work till the end. Maybe some loud music and some energy drinks would do the trick too!
    Haha, thanks...

    I've got the stamina, I'm just sooooooo slow from time to time.

    Cheers!

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    This project is insane. How come there are so many insane cars up North? Not much else to do or ...

    Could I be so brave as to ask what you do for a living? This project looks like HUGE $$$

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    I guess my mom must've dropped me one time too many or something... ; )

    Or it might have something to do with the fact that we get all four seasons
    here. Winter usually gets people working on their gems... =)


    No worries on asking about my job, Alfadog.

    I work for a publishing house named FABAS, mainly for a magazine called
    "Bilsport" - main occupation during the summer is to film the events that
    they host - which last year added up to 9 events.

    After the season's done with - I edit it into a DVD, which they sell. Since the
    release I've been writing a couple of articles, and taking pics, for "Bilsport",
    the kids version: "Bilsport Junior" and another magazine called "Fyndbörsen"
    (Fynd = bargain/find + börs = [stock] exchange). The publishing house sports
    close to 20 car/truck/4x4/etc magazines.

    I basicly bum around - take a few pics here and there. Shoot some video and
    write a little text every now and then. This weekend me and some photographers
    and a testdriver are going out testing a couple of cars on some frozen lake

    It's a dirty job, but hey! Someone's gotta do it





    Edit: Here I am, at the quarter mile, working my a$$ off : )
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    Lucky.

    Went through vids 1-12, wow, I am humbled. I really had a lot of fun watching them, and I saved them all for future fun! Can't wait for the next batch of Z car motion picture excitement! Makes me want to go start my own project...

    BTW, great choice of music. I own some of the stuff you used as well, hehe.

    Keep us updated, looks like fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennyman
    Lucky.

    Went through vids 1-12, wow, I am humbled. I really had a lot of fun watching them, and I saved them all for future fun! Can't wait for the next batch of Z car motion picture excitement! Makes me want to go start my own project...

    BTW, great choice of music. I own some of the stuff you used as well, hehe.

    Keep us updated, looks like fun!
    Here is #13! I posted it a couple of posts ago...

    http://www.voodoo-people.com/~daz/mu...ull@hugo13.wmv

    You got a PM btw... ; )

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    Love the project, Mull. You must be single - no wife/girfriend would put up with such a project (I have wife plus 4 children - I can't even get time to service the car, let alone restore it!).

    Have fun building the engine. A friend of mine has an R33 GTR Vspec-II, and another friend built an RB30DET engine for it - 320KW at the rear wheels on 1.2 bar boost on the factory computer and injectors. The Apexi computer and big injectors are being fitted this week. His other car is a 1970 240Z with a VG30DET motor, only 180KW at the wheels but tyre smoking torque, and insane fun for a Z ( I drove it one day and couldn't stop laughing!). You might want to consider traction control in your build...

    Edit : I've also noticed that the stock gearbox mounts are still in the tunnel... they will have to come out for the GTST gearbox.
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    I have a wife and FIVE, we agreed that she was'nt the only one with "baggage". I pretty much told her that every once in a while, I would need to spend time on "the mistress". I told her that she was more than welcome to join me at any time while working on the car, But I refuse to make a choice between her and the car.

    Needless to say, She's learming a whole new trade, learning tool names and functions, and keeping the hot coffee coming when ever my cup gets low.
    She loves the Z and loves riding in the "mistress" even more. We got a good thing, as long as I keep my D1CK out of both of their "tail pipes", she'll let me keep "her" in the garage.

    My wife LOVES the videos by the way. She said I'm NOT allowed to get the Z to that point.

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    Mull, awesome videos. I am totally envious of the amount of restoration you are putting into that Z, and I think we can all agree that your Z will be one of the most beautiful out on the road after everything is said and done. I've watched your videos a couple times through, and I plan on showing them to anyone I can.

    As for my girlfriend, she's the same as your wife Zs-ondabrain, I told her before we went out that my car was not going to take the "back seat", so to speak, and she agrees with me fully. She only makes a little bit of cash here and there (she's 17, and babysits for the church), but she's offered to put the cash she gets here and there into my car because she loves riding in it and working on it. She's helped me pull the head off of my L24 more times than I would like to count, and I'm pretty confident she'd be able to do the work herself if I asked her to.

    But Mull, my original point was that my girlfriend likes your videos too, and she's already talking about doing everything you are doing, but to my car instead.

    Enjoy the project, and be happy you're making videos, you'll not only have the sense of accomplishment of bringing something back to life and making it truly beautiful, but you can watch your videos and remember the hell you've been through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zs-ondabrain
    I have a wife and FIVE, we agreed that she was'nt the only one with "baggage". I pretty much told her that every once in a while, I would need to spend time on "the mistress". I told her that she was more than welcome to join me at any time while working on the car, But I refuse to make a choice between her and the car.

    Needless to say, She's learming a whole new trade, learning tool names and functions, and keeping the hot coffee coming when ever my cup gets low.
    She loves the Z and loves riding in the "mistress" even more. We got a good thing, as long as I keep my D1CK out of both of their "tail pipes", she'll let me keep "her" in the garage.

    My wife LOVES the videos by the way. She said I'm NOT allowed to get the Z to that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjfawke
    Love the project, Mull. You must be single - no wife/girfriend would put up with such a project (I have wife plus 4 children - I can't even get time to service the car, let alone restore it!).

    Have fun building the engine. A friend of mine has an R33 GTR Vspec-II, and another friend built an RB30DET engine for it - 320KW at the rear wheels on 1.2 bar boost on the factory computer and injectors. The Apexi computer and big injectors are being fitted this week. His other car is a 1970 240Z with a VG30DET motor, only 180KW at the wheels but tyre smoking torque, and insane fun for a Z ( I drove it one day and couldn't stop laughing!). You might want to consider traction control in your build...

    Edit : I've also noticed that the stock gearbox mounts are still in the tunnel... they will have to come out for the GTST gearbox.
    Haha, yeah - I'm kind of single anyway, seeing someone

    Your friends seem to have a couple of nice projects going! I do consider
    getting a EMS from AEM (which have launch control as well as traction).

    The stock gearbox mounts are on since I have to get the car through
    inspection with the stock engine/gearbox first, before putting the RB in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zs-ondabrain
    I have a wife and FIVE, we agreed that she was'nt the only one with "baggage". I pretty much told her that every once in a while, I would need to spend time on "the mistress". I told her that she was more than welcome to join me at any time while working on the car, But I refuse to make a choice between her and the car.

    Needless to say, She's learming a whole new trade, learning tool names and functions, and keeping the hot coffee coming when ever my cup gets low.
    She loves the Z and loves riding in the "mistress" even more. We got a good thing, as long as I keep my D1CK out of both of their "tail pipes", she'll let me keep "her" in the garage.

    My wife LOVES the videos by the way. She said I'm NOT allowed to get the Z to that point.

    Dave.
    Haha, cute story! I just hope that when I marry I find a girl of equal values : )

    Thanks! Good to hear she "LOVES" the videos!
    Quote Originally Posted by Pir0San
    Mull, awesome videos. I am totally envious of the amount of restoration you are putting into that Z, and I think we can all agree that your Z will be one of the most beautiful out on the road after everything is said and done. I've watched your videos a couple times through, and I plan on showing them to anyone I can.

    As for my girlfriend, she's the same as your wife Zs-ondabrain, I told her before we went out that my car was not going to take the "back seat", so to speak, and she agrees with me fully. She only makes a little bit of cash here and there (she's 17, and babysits for the church), but she's offered to put the cash she gets here and there into my car because she loves riding in it and working on it. She's helped me pull the head off of my L24 more times than I would like to count, and I'm pretty confident she'd be able to do the work herself if I asked her to.

    But Mull, my original point was that my girlfriend likes your videos too, and she's already talking about doing everything you are doing, but to my car instead.

    Enjoy the project, and be happy you're making videos, you'll not only have the sense of accomplishment of bringing something back to life and making it truly beautiful, but you can watch your videos and remember the hell you've been through.
    Thanks man When you're feeling envious, just remind yourself of how
    many cheap 240z you have all over your country. We have a total of about 50
    in Sweden. Most of which are fairly stock. I know of two that have V8's though.

    I am happy for making the videos since they give me inspiration. And seeing
    where the car's come from - to where it's at today - is very refreshing to say
    the least

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    Quote Originally Posted by mull
    The stock gearbox mounts are on since I have to get the car through
    inspection with the stock engine/gearbox first, before putting the RB in.
    Don't they care what you do after inspection? Here, you have to have an engineers report done and pass an inspection with the new driveline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjfawke
    Don't they care what you do after inspection? Here, you have to have an engineers report done and pass an inspection with the new driveline.
    Well, it hasn't passed the initial check up ... I skipped it since the car was
    pretty much ... FUBAR. So, I thought we should fix the rust first, before
    proceding with the check up.

    After the check up/initial registration, I'm pretty free to do whatever I want.

    Discbrakes for instance. 10+ point rollcage. Fuel cell. Engine/tranny swap.

    There's pretty much no emission regulations on cars older than -76, cars
    over 30 years old are also declared exempt from tax. Yay!

    Speaking of brakes, I was thinking of something along the lines of this:



    ...Or I might settle for something less heavy : ) Like this:
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    Philip,
    My hat goes off to you. You are doing an outstanding job. You show true passion for your Z. Keep up the good work and keep those excellent video's coming. They are great!
    Here is a little something that will hopefully help you:
    (If it's too small let me know I can email you a larger size picture 2200 x 2000)
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    Thanks alot Ed!

    Hopefully there's a new video coming soon since I'm getting some tutoring
    on soldering later on today. Looking forward to it. Gonna have some bumps
    hammered out as well (I hope).

    I actually already have the larger version of the picture you attached. Great
    big thanks anyway. It's good to know us Z-nuts help eachother out, cheers! =)


    Now, some "progress":
    Yesterday I visited a friend, who had a friend (who's good with electronics)
    over and they had a look at my taillights. If I tell you that I've ordered 15
    red bright LED's for testing - I think you can put two and two together :P

    I'll hopefully have custom made curcuitboards for this piece of the puzzle.
    Right now I'm just waiting for the LED's in order to do some testing...

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    Lead soldering in progress ...


    Before.


    During.


    After (..and No[!] It's not finished yet) :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by mull
    Now, some "progress":
    Yesterday I visited a friend, who had a friend (who's good with electronics)
    over and they had a look at my taillights. If I tell you that I've ordered 15
    red bright LED's for testing - I think you can put two and two together :P
    There's been some investigation done into this previously.... link
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    Progress:

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    Lead wiping. old school. Now thats the propper way to do it.
    www.nostalgictrio.com Skyline - Silvia - Fairlady Z
    www.ozdat.com The Australian Datsun site.
    www.cafepress.com/vintagedatsun

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    Will you use lead throughout the car? Will you not use a bondo-type substance anywhere? I had a '32 Ford 3-window coupe that we used lead on in 1959. It worked great! They have perfected the 'plastics' so well that no one uses lead anymore. Interesting that this is what your boys are using. Fascinating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZSaint
    Will you use lead throughout the car? Will you not use a bondo-type substance anywhere? I had a '32 Ford 3-window coupe that we used lead on in 1959. It worked great! They have perfected the 'plastics' so well that no one uses lead anymore. Interesting that this is what your boys are using. Fascinating!
    I wanted to learn how to work with lead soldering. Mainly using it now to
    smooth out some bumps that can't be hammered or by pushing from behind
    by using different instruments. Near the drip rail on the roof for instance.

    It's also to perfect the area around the welds and seal them up good.

    I'm no expert, so this is pretty rough around the edges, and fiberglass
    bondo will be used after the car is either painted with epoxy primer or
    POR15. Currently looks like the epoxy is the winning choice since it's
    what the sand blasing company uses. The car is going back for a light
    blasing of the welds, etc. I'll use POR on the floors and other places
    where extra rust protection is needed.

    When the car is primed/rust protected - caulk will be added to all the
    seams. Inside and out. I got some goodies from a company called Auto-
    experten that will be used for this:

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    I understand your usage of materials. I would have loved to use lead on some of my body areas. It seals up and does not rust. Oh well, I will just have to trust the modern plastics. I think you are doing the correct thing in using all of the materials available. It will be a nice car when finished.
    Z Saint, the vintage racer! I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved.

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    Lead is the way to go if you can get it. Thats what I'm using on my 71 in about the same location as he did.

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    I LOVE THE VIDEOS!!! I know that it is alot harder than it looks... but you guys sure make it look easy enough that I may go take some welding classes at the local community college so I can save alot of money when I redo the body on my Z. That way all I will have to do is pay someone else to paint it for me
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    simply amazing.

    cant wait to see more episodes.

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    Update : )

    Sandblasting No.2 is finished.



    Here he is, the little bugger : )


    Battery tray. Loving it! : )


    Drivers side whatever-its-called-mount : D


    Battery tray and firewall - add some compressed air and sand - ét voila!


    The floors are longing for some epoxy primer : )


    Before and after : )








    I love Allblästring!

    Tomorrow it's time for "Hugo" to say hello to some epoxy primer : )

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    Can you say powercoating? I had all of these "removeable parts" powdercoated. It is tough and fluids just do not harm it. We talked about epoxy paint but opted for the powdercoater. Glad I did!
    Z Saint, the vintage racer! I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved.

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    I did the same project but w/o all of the rust repair (whew!). I had a rotisserie built for the Z. The painter said it was the first time he had worked on a rotisserie. He said he wanted to use a rotisserie on EVERY car he restored. I temporarily 'donated' the spinner to ZTherapy and Steve is now using it on one of his Z's.

    Wait 'till you start putting it together. You will marvel at how good these spinners are when you install the suspension, brakes lines, fuel tank, etc.

    When I see the shell now vs. when you first got it apart, no one knows what you have done. You saved one that should not have been saved. Well done Master!
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    Thanks a million, ZSaint : )

    Here's the latest batch of pics, you should like content :












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    What did you use to fill in the gaps??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruez
    What did you use to fill in the gaps??
    http://www.henkel-lim.se/se/productDetail.php?recid=221
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    I remember you talking about a carbon fiber dash, I want to see it when you get it done. You're going to have one gorgeous Z. MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE.

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    i must say that your work is amazing and i am looking forward to seeing the finished product. and make another movie so i can add it to my collection.

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    Despite numerous passes inside the rocker panels using a vaccuum cleaner and compressed air: There was still stuff in there. Not anymore though =)







    Video should be coming pretty soon. I've been gathering material. Thanks : )

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    another sweet video. its comin along nicely.

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    Today I picked up some stuff from sand blasting. Powder coating awaits.




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    Hello Mull

    I discover your video recently, what amazing works!!!!

    I start a restauration project to built an Historic 240Z racing car, as i am mechanic teacher, i will do the project with my students and was help by a friend which is bodywork teacher

    i will show him those video, i think it will be very interested by them and me probably show them to our student!!!

    A question: I notice you speak about powdercoating, anyone could explain me what is it exactly because we didn't know that in France, and how it is spray, what is the advantage?

    Thank you
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