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    Greetings, fellow Earthlings,

    I've been doing a painstakingly slow restoration on a 1970 240z (am in year number 4....so far). My Z and I live in Arizona and we are members of Desert Z Association. I wish I had found this site years ago, as it appears as though there is a wealth of information from all of you that could have saved me alot of time and money.

    Anyway, I am getting pretty close to finishing my project but have come up with snag that I can't seem to fix. I had removed the original 3-point seat belt harnesses in order to have the metal parts rechromed. Now I find myself, some 2 years later, with 8 different belts of various lengths and can't seem to figure out how to re-assemble them. Would anyone have any information/diagram/ instructions on how to re-assemble these? Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

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    Are these the type of belts you have? Early - lift buckle? Or do you have the push-button buckle?
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    Here is a Feb 1970 240z (photos not great but they may help):







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    Their is companies that will replace the belts for you, you might want to give one a call and send your parts to them. However you still need to know how long the straps are. I can't do it now, I got to work today, but I could go measure and snap some pictures for you. Mine are out of the car right now.

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    Here is a set on ebay: Jan 1970: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsu...#ht_500wt_1182

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    They are the early lift buckle type.

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    Judging by the photos from 26thz and blue, I can see that 4 of my pieces connect to form 2 belts....one for each side. That helps some. However, am still not clear on how these would be assembled to form a complete harness. Also, does anyone know if a complete harness will fit either side (driver/passenger), or are these "side-specific"? Finally, while on the subject, I also need to re-install my luggage straps.....any pics of the correct placement of these would be appreciated. Thanks everyone for your help.

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    Default This should help

    Here are mounting details:
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    I am sorry I have the mounting point and clip point of the shoulder strap reversed.
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    Blue, thank you very much for the pics. I'll let you know if I'm successful after I have a go at it tomorrow. Thanks again.

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    What a chocolate mess! Finally figured out why I couldn't get these seat belts reassembled and installed. When I had sent the belts out to be rechromed (the connectors/clips...not the webbing..lol), it seems that the plating shop put ALL of the harware back onto the wrong belts! I even found that 2 of the connectors required for the seatbelts had been installed on the ends of the luggage straps. Now, I guess I'll have to find someone who has both a mechanical aptitude AND a commercial sewing machine! Sad thing is....they had actually done a nice job with the stitching when reassembling the belts......just didn't put the hardware where it belonged.

    Anyone have any suggestions on where I might look to find a seamstress/mechanic with a high-performance, turbo-charged sewing machine?

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    Bummer and sad. Can you take it back to the shop that dropped the ball? They should be responsible for their error
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    Hey, Blue,

    I guess I could take it back to the chrome shop, but it is in Asia so the costs could be a little prohibitive (). Guess I'll just have to use some of the money I saved on the chrome plating to hire an upholstery shop to do a little sewing. I learned a key lesson here.......when farming out specialty work such as chroming, do all of the dis-assembly and re-assembly myself and just leave them with the task of performing their specialty. Anyway, thanks again for all of your help on this.....without the aid of the detailed pics that you sent me, I'd still be wondering why I can't fit those round pegs into square holes

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    Sometimes you ask...can he be trusted? Yes, I wanted other club members to know that I purchased several parts from 9teen7t240z (He is in Arizona) recently. Very straight forward guy, we met through Datsun Classifieds.com site. Reasonable prices and the items were exactly as described and he shipped them very carefully packaged. I received them today. I thought others might want to know as he and I are new to this club and he is offering items for sale. Thanks again 9teen7t240z, pleasure buying from you. Good luck with your finishing touches on the Z. moderators please move this comment to proper location, thanks Aaron

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    Gosh, Aaron......thank you for taking the time to post some feedback. I'm glad that you're happy with your purchases. You can expect a little something "extra" in your pay envelope this week

    Just kidding.......thanks again,

    Mike

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    Fortunately, I did find an automotive and marine upholsterer who will restitch all of my belts (with the correct clips/buckles/connectors) for the princely sum of $20. and beer. Now, I have a new dilemna:

    Heineken or Burgermeister?
    Six pack, 12 pack, or full case?
    Bottles or cans?

    So many tough decisions to make when restoring these cars......

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