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    Default Which MP3 Player?

    I would like some suggestions for an MP3 player...

    the Ipod mini & nano are very nice. I'd go with the mini because the display is bigger (easier to read while driving). Others I'm aware of are the Creative Zen, and RCA Lyra 2300 series.

    My criteria:
    • PLAYLISTS (up to 20 tracks, minimum, EACH)
    • 1 Gb memory (keeps price relatively low)
    • replaceable and/or rechargeable battery (Alkaline, MiMH, or NiCd )
    • "big", easy to read display (while bouncing around in a car)
    • easy-to-use controls(for menu navigation)
    • 1/8 inch mini-jack for connection to radio (or portable amp/speakers)
    • FM tuner (option- nice for portability)
    • microphone and voice recording
    • Adjustable output volume
    • Equilizer settings (ex., Rock, classical, Jazz, Flat)
    • USB connector (obviously)


    A rechargeable battery pack is nice, although you have to carry a charging adapter, so I kinda lean towards Alkaline cells, because you can just throw a few spares in the armrest/ashtray).

    I think the Playlists, memory, and battery are the top 3 criteria, respectively.

    I'm using a basic one (RCA Lyra) with 638 Mb,and I only use 3 of 8 buttons(Play/pause, Next, prev) while driving, but only 1 playlist

    thx

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    Well, I have a regular Ipod (G3 15 gig), so i can only comment on that, but most should apply to the mini.

    PLAYLISTS (up to 20 tracks, minimum, EACH)
    Yes

    1 Gb memory (keeps price relatively low)
    yes (maybe buy a second hand older one and get more gigs for your buck)

    replaceable and/or rechargeable battery (Alkaline, MiMH, or NiCd )
    Yes, if you send it back to apple. The batteries have a long live anyway.

    "big", easy to read display (while bouncing around in a car)
    You shouldn't be reading the display while driving. Is as dangerous as trying to send and SMS while driving.

    easy-to-use controls(for menu navigation)
    yes

    1/8 inch mini-jack for connection to radio (or portable amp/speakers)
    Yes. if you get the belkin car charger, it has a dock connector that has a headphone jack that you can plug into a line in. or you can hack the belkin and use the dock connector and make a custom line in straigh into an amp, bypassing the pre amp in the charger.

    FM tuner (option- nice for portability)
    Nope.

    microphone and voice recording
    Yes, If you buy an additional piece of hardware.

    Adjustable output volume
    Yes

    Equilizer settings (ex., Rock, classical, Jazz, Flat)
    Yes

    USB connector (obviously)
    Yes, and firewire, with the right dock connector cable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Camouflage
    replaceable and/or rechargeable battery (Alkaline, MiMH, or NiCd )
    Yes, if you send it back to apple. The batteries have a long live anyway.
    There are several sources now other than Apple for battery replacement kits that a handy person can install at home. A couple of examples:

    http://www.smalldog.com

    http://www.macsales.com

    I also have a 3rd gen iPod (only 10 GB), and even have an FM modulator for it. If I had the choice, I'd try to get a head unit (or amp) with Aux. input, rather than FM or cassette adapters.
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    The newer units are coming with the FM tuner. But you'd say, "why would you need an FM tuner in the car?" It's for when you go portable. Put the player in the beltclip, plug in your earbuds, and you get radio.

    Would you trust a used Ipod? It seems to me that if it was working well, I'd not want to sell it.

    thx

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    Forgot to mention that head units (that what they call them these days) are starting to support iPods.

    Alpine and (Pioneer or Kenwood, cant remember which, prpbably both real soon) have adaptors, so you plug in the ipod and use the head unit controlls to access the playlists and play the music, and they display the track info in the head units display.
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    I have a pocket pc, the dell axim x51v 624mhz, and I put some of my tunes on that. I am big into music and have thousands and thousands and thousands of songs on my computer, that I download a few on to my pocket pc. It works ok. But i'm going to get on of the 60gig ipods, I have about 50gigs of songs on my computer so hopefully I can get most on that! a freind of mine has the 20 gig and loves it I like it because you can play it in any car or off any radio! the dell version isn't bad either. But you get what ever works best for you!!
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    I have seen the new head units with the plug for the Ipods. I hope eventually more MP3 players will adopt a common interface besides the USB for connecting to stuff.

    If you re-encode the P3s into 64 kbps, you should double the capacity. According to the info you read on the product packaging.

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    even if you don't get the ones that plug in, with the second generation radio tuners they work pretty damn good!
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    If you are playing it through a car stereo, 64 kbps will sound bad. Stick to 128kbps. I have a 1gig ipod shuffle, and it currently has 290 songs on it at 128bkps, which is about 15-17 hours worth. Every few days, I plug it into the computer and refresh the songs from the playlists I have set up in iTunes. I listen to it at work all day.
    Cheaper, but less options. It all comes down to what you want.
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    How good do the ones with the hard drive memory work? I don't like the idea of a hard drive ANYTHING bouncing around in a car, with the drive head crashing every time you hit a bump. Stick with flash memory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomoHawk
    How good do the ones with the hard drive memory work? I don't like the idea of a hard drive ANYTHING bouncing around in a car, with the drive head crashing every time you hit a bump. Stick with flash memory?

    GO with the harddrive!!!! Thats what I am going to get, you can hold way way more and they can take a beating!! like i said one of my friends has the Ipod one and I have 4 other freinds with the dell jb and I know that two of the people that have those beat the hell out of them!! I work with them and when we are out doing landscapes and planting trees those guys always have them one!! and they get beat around, hit with the shovel handle, droped, sat on, the occasional punch lol and one guy even dropped it as we were walking back to the truck one day and as he was stepping he dropped it and his leg going out to step kicked it about 5 foot and it then skidded across the parking lot a few more feet besides being a little bunged up, it still works great, he was using it tonight at work!
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    Default one of the best indulgent buys i've ever made

    i bought the original version 11 months ago and have considered it the best of the best in mp3 options. now they have made it better, more affordable and a new model is out. if you like quality sunglasses, then go with the combo, its cordless, always there and has impecable quality (motorola internals) and plays all the music i need to hear in a day. check the link to see my choice.

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    I gotta look into the design of these micro hard drives. They seem to have these things designed to be mobile, with much tolerance to vibration. Maybe it's not even mechanical, but a solid state drive (only about 1cm thick)?

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    http://portables.about.com/b/a/175644.htm

    I'd recommend the Flash mp3 players, because if you're active like me (jogging) a hard drive based, no matter what anyone says, is either going to eventually skip, or the hard drive is going to die. I replace a lot of hard drives for notebooks; they are NOT bulletproof...if you bang them around, they ARE going to break.

    Being active with a flash mp3 player is what I like....and with the new generations coming out, most of them have slots for removable memory cards (like with a digital camera).

    I have 3 memory cards, and put my thrash metal like Metallica and Megadeth on one...80s on another, and on the 3rd whatever I want...but IMO solid state is the way to go....if ipod is what is your bag, the 4gb Nano is pretty slick; be sure to get some type of protective cover, I know somebody who's 3 week old Nano is all scratched up (new it is really shiny) it looks real bad for such a new mp3 player---but the size and color lcd kicks ass...

    I just don't go the Apple route because they ignore what the competitors are selling products for, and you can save quite a bit of money on your player.

    YES, go with 128kps..or even what I do, is all my CDs have been converted to 256kps....256kps has very little degradation sound to my ears, but it still is much smaller than a .wav file.
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    Here's a CNET review of mp3 flash players with a memory expansion slot:

    http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-6210137-1.html
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    micro 1" hard drives are mechanical.
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