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    Default Weird Myths or Facts about your Z car

    I was at a car show the other day, and while resting inside the car I overheard a young dad telling his little boy some "facts" about my 280Z:

    "This guy took off the 4-barel carb and put on the fuel injection stuff, so now it's slower than other cars, but better mileage for city driving. It also has the heavier city bumpers put on it, instead of the lighter ones they originally came with."

    Or how about,

    "Why don't you bring your car over to my shop sometime, and we can re-chip your engine computer to get you 50 - 100 more HPs?"

    "These cars used to be called Corvette-killers because they were that fast."

    "Your car is illegal because it doesn't have the catalytic converter that ALL cars built after 1974 are required by law to have!"

    "I thought it had a V-8. Why did you swap your engine for something less powerful?"



    anything else? At least people read the entry sign in the window to see that it was a Datsun...

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    Oh man. I hope you corrected the guy? I guess when people who don't actually own a Z reminisce, they like to sound like they still know everything about the way things were.

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    I'd be spending the whole day educating people!
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    The best one I heard were two early 20 somethings talking about the line up of Z's at a car show. One said to another, wow, those are cool! What are they? Reply, I don't know the name, but they were early Toyotas!

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    Looks its a porsche!

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrivex View Post
    Look its a porsche!
    Dude, that's a different topic.
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    I was at the gas station two weeks ago. A father and two young children were heading back to a 1967 Camaro, As they passed my Z, one of the kids asked the father "What kind of car is that"? The father said, "Its a Mazda".

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    At a Petro Canada gas station last week, the clerk ask me: Is it a kit car? I was so frustrated
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    I heard my personal favorite at Amelia Island lingering around Carls Rally car.
    Two older ladies walked up, one knew exactly what the car was and proceeded to tell the other all about her exploits in the passenger seat/hatch area of a very similar 240Z...obviously someone-er, the the car made an impression, her memory was from her last year of graduate school in 1970!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeMoore View Post
    Oh man. I hope you corrected the guy? I guess when people who don't actually own a Z reminisce, they like to sound like they still know everything about the way things were.
    How can you 'correct' some of those notions? Those people are obviously working within their own logic. They can't be 'myths' because those seem to be singular incidents and obviously they can't be 'facts'......assumptions, outright fabrications, abject ignorance?...maybe.
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    Was in a carpark walking past a 260Z 2+2 and heard a kid asking his mom if it was an English car.
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    I once had a little kid riding his bike stop by while I was washing my car and asked if it was "American Muscle!" Made me laugh.

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    In 1974 I was driving my Z cross-country and was in Wyoming when I had to have a broken headlamp replaced. Pulled into a garage, got a new lamp put in, checked it, and drove away. Next morning, I get an early start and turn on the lights - that right lamp looks REALLY bright ... then poof - it burns out.

    The shop put in a 6 volt bulb - I guess since all them 'furrin cars have 6 volt electrical systems ...
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    the last car I saw with a 6Volt battery in it was a 1946 Olds.
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    Was getting my car inspected at a service station in Austin, Tx. They guy at the counter tried to tell me my car was worth $250,000. He said he used to have a 1971 240 back in the day, but he sold it because the fuel injection kept giving him problems. '71 240z w/ fuel injection? I definitely corrected him.

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    Anything in 1971 with electronic fuel injection would've been worth about a gazillion.
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    Here's one I just remembered. A guy was selling some 280ZX mags on ebay as stock 240/260Z mags. I sent him a message telling him they were actually 280ZX mags (14" cross stylemags), to which he replied something along the lines of:

    "No, they are definitely 240/260 mags, the 280ZX is such a big car these mags would look stupid on such a big car."
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    Quote Originally Posted by rclayton12 View Post
    Was getting my car inspected at a service station in Austin, Tx. They guy at the counter tried to tell me my car was worth $250,000. He said he used to have a 1971 240 back in the day, but he sold it because the fuel injection kept giving him problems. '71 240z w/ fuel injection? I definitely corrected him.
    You should have asked him to make a lowball offer of 175,000! "Well, I hate to part with her, but you've got a nice face..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomoHawk View Post
    Anything in 1971 with electronic fuel injection would've been worth about a gazillion.
    Why? The EFI that Nissan basically copied and used precedes 1971.......

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    As I recall - Nissan licensed Bosch's L-Jetronic. That was first available in the 74/75 time frame. L-Jet used a Air Flow Meter with an analog ECU... I don't recall any of that being used before 74/75 {calender year / model year}. From memory it seems that both Datsun and BMW were useing the same system for 75 model year cars. I was at Clearwater DATSUN/BMW at the time.. but that was a long time ago...

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    I should have been clearer. The D Jetronic version of the system existed in Germany, I believe as early as 1967.

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    Oh - OK - well if we go back pre "Air Flow Meter".. we might as well go back to the system Bosch basically copied and used... Bendix - circa late 50's...

    Now the car that would be worth $250,000.00 or more - would be one of the 58 Chrysler 300's that were equipped with EFI

    Of course Bendix developed it for aircraft use in the late 40's... and adapted it for automotive use in the mid-50's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Beck View Post
    As I recall - Nissan licensed Bosch's L-Jetronic. That was first available in the 74/75 time frame. L-Jet used a Air Flow Meter with an analog ECU... I don't recall any of that being used before 74/75 {calender year / model year}. From memory it seems that both Datsun and BMW were useing the same system for 75 model year cars. I was at Clearwater DATSUN/BMW at the time.. but that was a long time ago...

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    I remember that my 74 Volvo had some form of a "Jetronic" fuel injection system. It was a Bosch system, but it must have been different because it didn't have an air flow meter, just switches on the throttle body, and a manifold pressure sensor. It also had contacts in the distributor to fire the injectors... Strange system, but it worked very well.
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    The Volvo system was the Bosch D-jet system. They're good, if in proper working order, but they can't take big power increases. Guys who do that with the Volvo and want to run FI go with a Megasquirt setup for the most part and it works fine.

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    My favorite comment so far at a car show was two 240 fans, one of whom said "Those heavy bumpers added an extra thousand pounds to the car!" I didn't have the heart to tell him....

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    The 240Z had bumpers? I thout it was the old Merc 'led sleds' with the 2,000 bumpers....

    Even though my windscreen sunshade has in BIG letters on it, "1978 280Z," people still say, "nice 240" or "nice "ZX"
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    I LOVE CAR SHOWS!!!!! BUT!!!!! I spend 85% of my time correcting myths, mistold stories, false statements and all around just informing people of what they need to know. So the next time they see another 240Z, they won't look like such an idiot to a possibly not so nice Z car owner.

    I've just about heard them all....... Keep in mind that my 240Z is a numbers matching 70'

    "I didn't know Toyota made a 240Z?" So I said "Yeah, they started making these after their TANK business went under, Kinda like what Lamborgini did with the whole farm equipment business.".....

    "DUDE!!! That would look Awesome with some 22"s on there!!" Yeah, maybe 22" bicycle tires....

    "See Son, this is what happens when people have too much time and money on there hands, but KIT Cars are great" I just acted like I was admiring the car, then walk to the next one down the row.

    "Look Honey, a Mini 280ZX........." And YUP, she was very Blonde

    "These German cars are great little grocery getters"........ At least he got the grocery getter part right, it IS my daily driver.

    "I just saw a 4 door one of these last month, funny looking but kinda cool at the same time" I just said "Awesome, that WAS a rare one"

    And I'm sure we've all heard something close to .....

    "Why'd you swap out the V8 for a slant 6?" Cause it has better torque?
    "Swapped the fuel injection for duel webers huh? I have stock S.U.'s
    "Aren't these the original S14's (240SX)" I guess they are in a way...
    "Where'd ya find Vynal to replace all the stock carpet?" HUH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rclayton12 View Post
    Was getting my car inspected at a service station in Austin, Tx. They guy at the counter tried to tell me my car was worth $250,000. He said he used to have a 1971 240 back in the day, but he sold it because the fuel injection kept giving him problems. '71 240z w/ fuel injection? I definitely corrected him.
    Whos' to say when "back in the day was". Did he say the had the car in 71 or simply that it WAS a 71 model? It could have been 1975 or later with a 280Z FI engine swapped into a 1971 car, or another powerplant entirely. I guess it's all in how you interpret that one. $250,000......don't we all wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by =Enigma= View Post
    $250,000......don't we all wish.
    Hell no!! Then I'd never get the parts I need, at the price I pay now. But it would make for a nice down payment on something.....
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    A short while after I got my car, (2003) I went to the Nissan dealer to get to know the Z tech guy, and one of the salesmen told me that they don't make Zs any more! There's no way I can have a 280Z, because they stopped making them.
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    week after getting my Z from the States, my neighbour comes to greet me and says: -Nice camaro you got there!
    -no sir, its not a camaro, it's Datsun
    -you're kidding me, Datsun didn't make any sport cars!
    -well im sorry but this is Datsun, believe it or not (at the time i didnt have any emblems installed so there was no visual confirmation)

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    Today I bumped into my neighbor across the street, who owns a '68 Camaro that he bought new and who has lovingly kept it in very nice condition. I had just sold my '66 Mustang, which he found disappointing. I asked him how he liked my 280Z, which was sitting in the driveway. He said it's a nice looking car. He said he had a friend who once owned a 280Z and liked it, adding that he's surprised it hasn't changed any over the years. I replied, "It hasn't?" He said, "No, the new models look just like the old ones from the 70's. Long story short, he thought my car was brand new. (Now you would THINK a guy with a very nice little '68 Camaro would know better!)

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    i realize im quite late to the conversation haha but try owning a 1971 dodge coronet (the year they only made 4 doors)... thats the most frustrating conversation starter ive ever delt with.. "oh nice bonneville!" "thanks its a dodge coronet" "oh cool whats under the hood a 318? " no a 383 "chev?" "no a big block dodge" "no 383s are big block chevs" "no theyre small block stroker chevs that never came factory in anything.. or big block dodges.. b engine to be precise" "no"... every time... one girl said it was a wagon.. i didnt say anything back. then after these rediculous conversations theyre like yeah that things really cool are you gonna restore it? and then i give up (its rather minty concidering its a rust free dodge from 1971 with the original paint in good shape). anyways the z brings lots of confusion but that coronets a whopper when i bring it to auto class...

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    Doesn't really fall under the heading of 'Weird Myths or Facts about a Z car '.........
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    Ha, Never too late around here.

    I'm in constant conversation with things like.

    Fairlady vs. 240Z.
    Fuel injection vs. Stock S.U.'s
    YES!! This is the stock motor. No it's not a "straight 8" just an inline 6.

    When they came out, when they stopped making the S30, the difference between 280Z vs 280ZX, difference in the models, etc, etc.

    It's ok though. I LOVE talking about my Z!!

    By the way. My car was saved from a Psycotic Ex-wife...... The told me "Look, I'll drop the price if you get it away from my house and my wife TODAY" Aparently, if she got the car in the divorce, she was gonna take it to the range and use it for target practice. She already hit EVERY panel with a Philips head screw driver.

    3 times in the roof, from the inside of the car
    2 on the hatch
    1 on the hood
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    and ran the screwdriver up the seam of the hatch and body.

    Oh ya, she was a keeper. NOT.
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    My friend once took me to the junkyard by his house (about 25-30 miles away) claiming they had "about 8 or 10 Z's" just like mine and that they had not really been picked through! On the way there i was all excited about the possibilities. As it turned out, they were all 280zx's, although there was a 280z 2+2, that he didn't notice lol.

    My other favorites are the people that sell Z's that they have, claiming that they have a V-6 . When i was looking for my Z i also noticed some selling them as a "z240" or "z260"etc...
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    Oddly, even used parts suppliers might sell a ____ for a 1982 280Z or somesuch. You would think they would know better, being in the business.

    A bit less egregious, I'll often go to the parts store where they actually know me and know my car, and I'll ask them to look up a part for me, reminding them it's a '78 280Z. Half of the time, they'll enter a '78 Cheverolet Camaro Z28.

    The other day a woman my age saw my car and exclaimed, "Cool RX-7!"
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    While at a Dairy Queen this summer with my 11 year old son I saw a guy about my age pointing at my car, obviously telling his teenage son something about the car. They approached the car and the two gave it a walk around, the father continuing to point things out. Finally, the two came to me and asked "what year RX-7 is this?"

    I told them it was a '72 RX-7.
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    Last summer I had a guy tell me that the casting lines on my intake manifold were really welds because "just about every one cracked in that way" and had to be welded at some time.
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    I had a HS driver ask me why the engine was in backwards?

    Did you louse your engine cover?

    Who put smuggling compartments in?

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    1- That's what we say to Chevy owners.
    2- Kids have little in the way of open minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zs-ondabrain View Post
    ..."Look, I'll drop the price if you get it away from my house and my wife TODAY" Aparently, if she got the car in the divorce, she was gonna take it to the range and use it for target practice...
    Someone give this man a Nobel peace prize!

    Glad you saved the car from such treatment
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    She was one mean lady, hense the guy wanting a divorce. Really wish I had kept his info, I'd love to show him the Z now-a-days. If anything, just to let him know that she's a survivor and being treated with the upmost respect and buckets of love.

    Even funnier would be for him to take a picture of it with him standing by it, to show his ex, via email or whatever. Think that would set her off?

    I think it might. How would I go about contacting or finding info on a Previous Owner?
    Seriously, I'd like to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zs-ondabrain View Post
    She was one mean lady, hense the guy wanting a divorce. Really wish I had kept his info, I'd love to show him the Z now-a-days. If anything, just to let him know that she's a survivor and being treated with the upmost respect and buckets of love.

    Even funnier would be for him to take a picture of it with him standing by it, to show his ex, via email or whatever. Think that would set her off?

    I think it might. How would I go about contacting or finding info on a Previous Owner?
    Seriously, I'd like to know.
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    That's easy now days if you have his full name, depending how common that name is you can get it down quite a bit. Current info is best but old phone numbers and addresses will get you right to him. First place to start is www.whitepages.com since it's free. If you can't find him their you can use one of the paid search sights to find him. Someone I knew tried to skip town, because he owed a lot of money and a little money to me, but what got me chasing him was when he took my chainsaw & equipment (my setup would cost about 3,500 to replace). I found him in Texas two weeks after he left I was at his door with the local sheriff getting my stuff, I had court papers sent to his house about the money, two days after that I had the cash he owed me and $500 extra for my time.

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    That's the thing, I don't have the original paperwork from 8 years ago. no idea what his name is. Can I look up my Z's past owners at the DMV or something?
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    Back in 1989 I drove my 260z to a friends house and one of his sisters saw it a said "Look dad bought me a Porsche for christmas!!". "Sorry that car is not a Porsche and it mine not yours".

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    I have also heard "Nice Mazda". And "no you're car is not a 280z that is a 240z the 280's look way different".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zs-ondabrain View Post
    That's the thing, I don't have the original paperwork from 8 years ago. no idea what his name is. Can I look up my Z's past owners at the DMV or something?
    Do you have the address he lived at when you bought the car or his phone number back then. You can get his name from that stuff. DMV's are hard to get that information from does Washington have some type of open public records act? That would make it really easy to get the info.

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    I was once asked at a gas station why I had changed my 280ZX from right hand drive to left hand drive because all of the old Japanese cars were imported and had right hand drive originally.
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    When I had my car , a 72, I was at a car show and a guy asked me why I installed a NISSAN engine in my Corvette

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    Back when I had my 70 or it could have been the 72, someone asked if it was a kit car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-4-T-Z-MAN View Post
    When I had my car , a 72, I was at a car show and a guy asked me why I installed a NISSAN engine in my Corvette
    You should have told him, "That's not a Corvette! That's an RX-7!"
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    My forward sun sheild says in BIG letters, "1978 DATSUN 280Z"

    Most people will come by and say, "what year is this car?"
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    I had a kid ask me if my 280ZX was a Porsche. Also a former girlfriend thought my 350Z was a Porsche (needless to say, she was blonde ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportBikeMike View Post
    I had a kid ask me if my 280ZX was a Porsche. Also a former girlfriend thought my 350Z was a Porsche (needless to say, she was blonde ).
    Hey!!! I a blond. What do you mean to say?

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    I parked at Starbucks yesterday in the Fairlady, and someone sitting at an outside started talking with me.

    Stranger: "Beautiful car man!! Is that a Z?!"

    Me: "Thanks! Yes it is..."

    Stranger: "Are you the original owner!?!?!?!?!?"

    Me: (blank stare) ".... no...?"

    ...

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    "That can't be a Datsun, they topped making those years ago..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by grantf View Post
    Hey!!! I a blond. What do you mean to say?
    No offense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportBikeMike View Post
    No offense!
    no worries, its a humor thread. And I am more grey now anyhow.Why is it when I make a typo I can't get the white out off the screen later?

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    The Z was at Painter Ray's when a delivery guy dropped off a package. He looked at the car and asked if it was a 260 or 280? I told him it was a 240. He looked confused and said, 'never heard of that one'. I went back to sanding.

    The Z had been painted and some bits put on, but no emblems. I pushed it in the drive to sweep the garage floor. A kid about 12 on a bike stopped to look at it. "Cool Ferrari, why'd ya paint it blue?"

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    This is another example of people that are severely misinformed about Z cars.

    http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2267446738.html

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    No way! That's one of those extremely rare one-off 250s!
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    I've seen the car. It's not worth $850 even as a parts car. Bad motor, bad tranny (4spd), trashed interior, lots of rust, missing parts.....
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    Ok, I have two Stories. One mistaken car identity, one just funny.

    1. At the time my 73 had the tinted headlight covers. Drove by a restaurant I was meeting some friends at...Get inside and they all ask me when I got the Jaguar.

    2. Driving to a carshow I see 3 little kids staring at my car. I get close enough that one of them yells "It's tiny". I looked at my wife, and replied "I get that A LOT."

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    I just got my 240 about 6 weeks ago. I was out in the garage working on it that first weekend and, what do you know, an eleven-year-old boy from the neighborhood walks up and says, "Wow, is that a Datsun?!" I was absolutely amazed that the kid knew what it was. His mother told me later he was a little car nut. So, maybe there's hope for this new generation after all.

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    The new kid at my local AutoZone has one of those newer-fangled turbo V6 Z cars, but he knew all about my '78 Z. After discussing common failure modes in my Saturn's O2 sensor (why I was there), we talked archaic analog L-Jetronic stuff for several minutes. I was impressed. Yes, there's hope.
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    I was thinking you were going to say how the kid wanted to look up the performance "chip" for the engine computer, or something like that. BTDT
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharvat View Post
    I just got my 240 about 6 weeks ago. I was out in the garage working on it that first weekend and, what do you know, an eleven-year-old boy from the neighborhood walks up and says, "Wow, is that a Datsun?!" I was absolutely amazed that the kid knew what it was. His mother told me later he was a little car nut. So, maybe there's hope for this new generation after all.
    Get that kid a rag, and a 1/4 socket drive you got a helper

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    I was taking mail to post office and one small kid came to me and asked me "is it good enough?" I wanted to say something clever but i only said "yes"
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    Not a myth, but a misperception:

    So my partner and I went to the grocery store last night, as we have company coming in -- LOTS of people. I asked, "should we take the Saturn," as I knew we needed lots of groceries. She said, "No, let's take the Z. The groceries will fit." At the store I had erred towards the light side, getting less, rather than more, of the bulky items like TP. My partner did the opposite. So when we got to the checkout, whe had a couple of well loaded carts that packed into three carts of bagged groceries. My partner said, "Well, I THINK it will fit," and I looked at her skeptically. (Note here: I have the '78 raised floor hatch area, with a big subwoofer already eating up some of the rear of the compartment.)

    As the bag girl was bagging all our groceries, she asked, "Is ALL of this yours?!" I nodded, and she exclaimed, "NICE!" She tagged along to roll the third cart out to the car, and when she saw what it was going into, she said, "You're going to fit all of THIS into THAT?!" I said, "Supposedly," still skeptical.

    So we packed the hatch up to the ceiling, nestled bottles of wine and milk in the passenger floorboard, put one bag in my partner's lap, and.... it all fit! Amazing! I said to the bag girl, "And you had your doubts!"

    That was 17 paper bags, each fairly well loaded, one big box of kitty litter, 2 bags of wine, 2 gallons of milk, and a large package of TP -- almost $400 worth of groceries.

    Oh yeah, the misperception/underestimation was on MY part!
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    Last summer I found out that my bag of golf clubs fits perfectly on the deck behind the seats. How's that for a good design? It looks like the car was well-designed for the kind of people they had targeted. Not only that, but when I first started cleaning out the interior, I found about a dozen golf balls in the spaces in the back, under the deck, in the tool bins, under the seats, all over...
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    Fast woman, I am impressed, I was surprised to find that I could fit 8' drywall corner bead in my 77 and still close the hatch. People at work are starting to make fun of my 280 "truck".

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    I had two basset hounds in the trunk area, one was 95lb the other was 45lb, plus their stuff. They loved it their heads were at your height when they stood up

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    Tomo, we didn't even think of the tool bins! There was probably no need to lap-carry any of our groceries!

    Grant, back in college, I'd stuff the back of my '75 Z with all sorts of camping gear for a week of camping. Who needs a truck? I'd also use it to haul around equipment. I would often carry maybe 10 rack-mount items back there. I think I once brought a dishwasher home in the hatch (open, of course).

    AJM, we had an elderly little dog that loved the hatch of my Z. It was like the observation car of a passenger train. He'd stand back there and enjoy a 360 deg view!
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    The best one I heard were two early 20 somethings talking about the line up of Z's at a car show. One said to another, wow, those are cool! What are they? Reply, I don't know the name, but they were early Toyotas!
    In his defense, I guess I could see turbod s130s being similar to earlier Supras

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    The small Basset was mine and when it was just her, every time a truck pulled up behind me at the light she would roll and try to get them to rub her belly. I'd also leave the hatch open when I parked for her, and people would come up and pet her in the car, she was a calm and very loving dog.

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    So I went to the auto parts store the other day to buy an oil change supplies. I had the guy look up a Mobil 1 filter for me. When he walked with me to the filter area to grab the thing, he looked at it, puzzled, shaking his head, and said, "Naaaaah, there's NO WAY this is the right size filter for that little car." I responded, "Well, they do seem to be a bit smaller these days, but maybe I'm just imagining it."
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    The boss at work (General director). Saw me get out of my car for the first time last week. He asked if I restored it myself and I said yes commenting that I bought it for $300 bucks. He said cool it looks like a corvette! he is the boss what can you say?

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    Many bosses think a sportscar IS a corvette- they have that Corvette kind of mind...
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    What do you say when they ask you "how fast will it go?"

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    What do you say when they ask you "how fast will it go?"
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    What do you say when they ask you "how fast will it go?"
    Talking about my car, I always say that stock, about 122 (from the R&T test in April 1972); with spoilers, hotter cam, other tweaks on the original 2.4L, a bit faster; with the 331ci SBC that I ran for a while, about 145; today, with a warmed over 2.8L - who knows...I don't drive that fast anymore...

    I think the best answer, though, is the 88mph response
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    Most people will look at the Speedometer and "figure it out for themselves." But I usually say that "it goes 65 MPH."
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    A couple weeks ago, I had a guy talk to me about his Z, and told me that his was a 1981 280Z.

    I tried to explain nicely that the last year for 280Z was 1978, and after it was the 280ZX, but that guy was definitely convinced about his 280Z being an '81. He may get a surprise when he needs to get parts.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomoHawk View Post
    A couple weeks ago, I had a guy talk to me about his Z, and told me that his was a 1981 280Z.

    I tried to explain nicely that the last year for 280Z was 1978, and after it was the 280ZX, but that guy was definitely convinced about his 280Z being an '81. He may get a surprise when he needs to get parts.....
    Its amazing the amount of people who don't distingush between the 280Z and 280ZX. I've even seen ads on Ebay, where they will refer to a 280ZX as a 280Z. They apparently never look at the badging on their car...
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    I think they write in 280ZX just to get more people to look at the auction or ad, hoping someone wil but something anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    What do you say when they ask you "how fast will it go?"
    "Faster than a speeding ticket and slower than a GT-R"

    "Faster than a GEO and slower than a Ferrari"

    "Faster than a Sneeze and slower than that drop of Blue Port-o-let water that hits your sphincter"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zs-ondabrain View Post
    "Faster than a speeding ticket and slower than a GT-R"

    "Faster than a GEO and slower than a Ferrari"

    "Faster than a Sneeze and slower than that drop of Blue Port-o-let water that hits your sphincter"
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    When the flat bed delivered my 73Z from the paint shop he didn't know it was. This is a guy that has been moving cars for 10+ years. When I told him it was a 73 240Z I have been working on for 3 years he was so impressed he refused to take money. I guess there are not many here on the east coast.

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    I wanted to get my carbs synked up , so I went to the local dealer and they told me ..... 1st guy said " they didn't come with dual carbs" and the 2nd guy said " I've always wanted to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymmit View Post
    " they didn't come with dual carbs"
    Triples!
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    I hope I'm not stepping out of line with a story about our '63 Datsun Roadster (it IS related to the Z after all). We were on a Sunday drive in the Roadster and passed a Nissan dealership. The 350Z had just come out and they had quite a selection, so we decided to stop by.

    After a few minutes looking at the Zs, I glanced towards our Roadster and saw a small crowd of people standing around it, with a very impressive-sounding Nissan sales guy talking quite authoritatively about "the MG."

    I walked over and very nicely said "actually, this happens to be a Datsun Fairlady" to which he attempted to correct me with the "fact" that Datsun didn't import any cars to the US prior to the early Z cars. I asked him to look at the badge on the center of the steering wheel, he said quite unimpressed "it's a P". I straightened the steering wheel and asked him to look again, but he wasn't buying that it was actually a lower case d.

    There was only one thing left to do; I popped the hood, pointed to the VIN plate and asked him to read it. He stood there for a moment, muttered something about having to get back to work and wandered off.

    However, I quickly discovered that opening the hood of a 40+ year old Datsun practically in front of the repair bays of a Nissan dealership is a good way of attracting mechanics. Several came trotting over and spent a few minutes studying the engine bay. I started getting a bit concerned that we were attracting unwanted attention, as a guy came out of the sales office and watched us with a not-too-happy look, so we beat a hasty retreat.

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    Dealerships can be very pretentious I had one tell me I switched the engine because it said Nissan on the valve cover

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    About the same time as MariaAz's incident, I was at the local Nissan dealer to check them out in case I needed specialized services for my Z. A salesman met me in the lot out front where the 350Zs were and I talked about my 280Z. The salesman informed me that there's no way I can have a 280Z because they stopped making those 30 years ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomoHawk View Post
    About the same time as MariaAz's incident, I was at the local Nissan dealer to check them out in case I needed specialized services for my Z. A salesman met me in the lot out front where the 350Zs were and I talked about my 280Z. The salesman informed me that there's no way I can have a 280Z because they stopped making those 30 years ago!
    So you've told us:
    Quote Originally Posted by TomoHawk View Post
    A short while after I got my car, (2003) I went to the Nissan dealer to get to know the Z tech guy, and one of the salesmen told me that they don't make Zs any more! There's no way I can have a 280Z, because they stopped making them.
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    "That can't be a Datsun, they topped making those years ago..."
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    Well, yesterday I had many of these themes come up in the same conversation, when I showed my "new" Z (had it now for 2 years) to some out-of-town relatives. They both commented how cute the car was. One of them pointed to the inspection flaps and asked if those were the headlights. I explained that they were just flaps. They both asked what the car was, and I told them a '78 280Z. One of them then commented, "They haven't changed much, have they?" I think he though the car was recent. I explained, "No, this car was built in 1978." Then he repeated, apparently not understanding, "Yeah, that's what I mean. They haven't changed much at all." I guess he still didn't understand that I was referring to the very car I was driving, as opposed to the model. I guess he thought the model must still be in production, since apparently I had just bought one.

    After asking me about the Z, he asked me about my 2001 Z3, asking if I still had "that old yellow car." Mind you, the old yellow car was in show-room condition, so I guess it was just the body style he thought made it an antique. Go figure.

    Then the other relative (who apparently grasped that the Z was an antique) asked me how fast it goes. I replied that I don't know -- that I've never driven it that fast. Incredulously, and with a smirk on her face, she quipped, "WHY NOT?!" (This comes from an elderly, retired primary school teacher.) I told her that in its day it would go around 160. In hind-sight, I think I should have told her, "I don't know. I'm not dumb enough to try driving it that fast."
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    Today at the 7-11; Is it a 280Z? No Its a 240........
    How hard was it to take the back seats out? I made them into fold aways (pointing out the slit in the carpet)
    Wow. that looks slick. Thinking to myself, MORON..................

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    I know it's not a Datsun, but i just had to share it with you guys. A friend of mine pulled into his college campus one morning and someone with a large amount of intelligence and a yellow MR2, had parked in the "select parking." He had a bunch of Lamborghini emblems on the car as well. You should of seen the crowd around the car, people were saying things like, "How can he afford this?" or, "This car is worth at least 100k." Others were taking photos of the car because it was such a rare thing to see. So if any of you guys need an instant 100k increase in you cars value go get some Lambo emblems and slap them on.
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