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    Could one of you guys from the places where Zs are sold withthe steering wheel on the right(not to be confused with correct!) side of the car see if the 240Z mirrors are available from the Nissan Dealer. A bunch of us Yanks are interested in huying them and having them shipped. Thanks to Carl Beck, we have a part number: 96301-P7200
    I will post a picture a little later to help verify what we are asking for.
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    I am in for one.
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    I doubt they will be available from Nissan dealers over here( they don't stock anything for the older cars anymore) but I will check the part number with a UK Z specialist who gets things from Japan.

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    Thanks Andrew,
    Late this afternoon, I will post a series of pictures of the side mirror we want to match-That part number should be a match for the mirrors we have. I have a list of three or four other possabilities as well.
    Since we can't get any of them here, we really don't know if anyof them matches...
    Here is the list of possible matches:
    96301-P7200
    96301-E4100
    96301-P9100

    The mirror we have as issued by nissan is part number 96301-E4600
    this is the mirror I will be posting pictures of.

    The one real quandry I have is: If Nissan Part numbering convention is consistant, the part number for the match of the left mirror(96301-E4600) should be 96302-E4600, and that part number does not come up.
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    Hey Will,

    I had a pm from zsaint, (Loren), asking the same question.

    I can't help personally but, as I told Loren, I get all my bits and pieces from a supplier in Sydney;
    www.allzparts.com.au
    If you don't add the "au" you'll get a Yank supplier.

    The boss's name is Warren. Nice bloke, helpful, certainly knows Zeds, a bit slow in responding at times but I've found him reliable and prices reasonable.

    I got the L.h. mirror from him so I presume he would have the R.h. ones.

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    Thanks for the option Rick,
    I'll email him for info!

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    Count me in...Robert
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    Quote Originally Posted by hls30.com
    The one real quandry I have is: If Nissan Part numbering convention is consistant, the part number for the match of the left mirror(96301-E4600) should be 96302-E4600, and that part number does not come up.
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    Will,
    Looking at my UK-market parts lists just now, I can see the following part numbers:

    *96301-E4100 - ASSY-BACK MIRROR OUTSIDE RH ( Exc. France ) - EUROPE.

    *96302-E4100 - ASSY-BACK MIRROR OUTSIDE LH ( Exc. France ) - EUROPE.

    *96302-E8800 - ASSY-BACK MIRROR DOOR OUTSIDE RH ( for Australia ).

    Note that there seems to be no number for the "Australia" LH mirror..........

    I honestly can't recall ever having seen one of these mirrors fitted to a UK-market car.

    I'll ask my friendly Nissan dealer, but I don't hold out much hope I'm afraid.......

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    Alan,
    Thanks for the attempt, and the info.
    The search continues...
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    I have called Nissan USA, and gotten some information, and a proceedure to go about in trying to find these mirrors. In the course of the conversation I informed the gentleman I was speaking to that I would be happy to do the research myself, but that I would like pertinant points of contact, or access to the other versions(non USA) of Efast(Nissans' In-house parts program)-or equivalent-he said he would check into that, but that obviously those were not the prepaired fare that were at ready for release.
    Because this conversation was well outside of the standard Nissan script, permissions and clearances would have to be verified before I was to be given such access.
    On a brighter possability,
    One of the Deprtment heads within the parts distribution framework will be getting a letter in a two days containing all of the part numbers listed in this thread, and several photos of the drivers side mirror we are trying to match. The gentleman will be in the office on Thursday, and my point of contact has promissed to hand deliver the request to him personally. I have also been told that if this is not a productive request, there are other avenues to explore.
    I was able to get telephone numbers to several of the Nissan parts distribution locations in the UK, but asked not to use them until we had explored the more local means of finding out about the mirors.
    I have also contacted both allZparts.com/.au, and MJPauto.com to attempt to enlist their help in finding some.
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    I have spoken with Warren @ All-Z re the rhs drivers side mirror and he tells me he can no longer get them genuine from Nissan; if he cannot get them then I suggest that no one can.

    He is having them remade, apparently a few guys here in Australia have them installed. I havent seen any personally, but reportedly the plating used on the piece which holds the mirror glass isnt plated the same as the original.

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    I have been trying to call his shop since 8am his time-it either rings off the hook, or it is buisy! Now I don't guess I need to make that call...
    Will

    PS, any chance of a used one? As long as the stalk isn't broken, I can make do.
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    Default Another Australian possibility?

    Guys,
    You could also try www.adelaidezcars.com.au
    I have bought a few bits and pieces off of them. Can't promise but may be worth a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HS30-H
    Note that there seems to be no number for the "Australia" LH mirror..........

    We only got driver side door mirrors as far as i'm aware.

    Can you rotate the mirror 180 degrees and stick it on the other side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Camouflage
    We only got driver side door mirrors as far as i'm aware.

    Can you rotate the mirror 180 degrees and stick it on the other side?

    Thats my understanding as well.

    2c.....

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    Uuuhhhh, Mike,

    OUR driver side mirror is what they want mate.

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    Hey Will,

    Another Zed supplier is;

    Nisszed parts
    20 Kerrs Road
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    Victoria, 3761

    Phone, 03 9710 1091
    Fax, 03 9710 1887

    Contact name, Lawrie Nelson. No web site or email address in the advert.

    Don't know anything about 'em, had nothing to do with 'em, just found them in a magazine.

    Hope it helps.

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    So let's see if I've got it. You rotate and Australian mirror and put it on the left side and you rotate a USA mirror and put it on the right side. . . . . . . . . . .
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    Follow the direction of the water when you flush...
    Thanks Rick-I'll give them a call-no luck so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Bravo 6
    Uuuhhhh, Mike,

    OUR driver side mirror is what they want mate.

    Rick.
    I don't understand how you arrived at that conculsion
    I was simply agreeing with Mr.C
    I believe that our 240's initially [apart from 004] came with only a drivers side mirror.

    The passenger side was a dealer add-on.

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    Ive seen a few of our cars with the right and left front fender mounted chrome type mirrors installed, akin to RHD VIN#004. One was an early green exterior one used for a dealer brochure I have.

    Nisszed Spares is expensive IMO.

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    Now I am confused-I never said it took much...
    Your drivers side is our passenger side-hence we are looking for your driverside mirrors...
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    Will,
    You may have noticed that my "Precious" sports a passenger side mirror. When turned fully inwards, I cannot see the side of the car at all. The view is about 12 inches off the car. Whether this is normal or not I don't know. In all honesty, I regard the passenger side mirror as purely cosmetic. That's all it's good for.

    Just for the sake of it, I turned "MY" driver's side mirror fully inwards and sat in the left hand seat to see what the view was. It's exactly the same. Can't see the side of the car.

    I don't mean to chuck in a red herring, just thought it best to mention it.

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    Are the mirrors on your car mirror images of each other?
    If they are a properly matched R and L, then I know what had to be done for a matching (and fully functional) set.
    Oh, and in the wake of HHGTTU, So Long, And Thanks For The Fish!
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    PS, could you take a few pictures of both mirrors for me?
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    Sorry mate, no can do with pics.
    Loaned my camera to number 1 son. He's in Brisbane. So's the camera.

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    I heard back from my tame local Nissan parts department manager this morning. No luck I'm afraid. He can't get them.

    Sorry.

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    Thanks HSH30-H,
    That seems to be the standard answer-anyone lnow of a used one that is or could be available?
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    Will, the rhd market, driver's side mirror will still be a poor "Far side" mirror for your car. Since it is a flat mirror, it will be much like turning a LHD market mirror around, except in one way. The RHD mirror should (disclaimer here, "SHOULD") match the angle of the LHD "Driver's Side".

    The farther away you are from a flat mirror, the narrower the field of veiw. Our mirrors,from the far seat, don't do much good.
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    Yair Victor, that's what I meant.

    Standing beside the front L/H mudguard,(fender to you lot), and taking careful note of the mirror, then repeating the exercise on the R/H side, The only difference I noticed was that the mirror was turned in opposite directions. I could be wrong but, wouldn't it be easier to simply buy another mirror and just turn it around ????????????. As I said before, I regard it as purely cosmetic.

    Will,
    Have you had answer back from All Z Parts yet ??????????
    You said before that you tried ringing but couldn't get an answer. Ummmm, you did allow for the difference in time zones, ............... didn't you ?????

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    Victor-
    I appreciate your making that point in the thread-I knew, but other members might not. I have another idea, but I would like a sample of the correct mirror hardware.
    Rick,
    Yes, I was Calling his number from what should have been 8am to 10 am his local time-assuming Qld is 14 hours ahead of my local time as I believe-8pm today, here, is really 10Am tomorrow, there!
    Your examination seems to provide proof that only one version of the mirror was produced-together with the lack of conformity with the Nissan part numbering system, I am beginning to think Nissanjust rotated the flag as well-Hopefully my search within Nissan will turn up something...
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    Default passenger side mirror onebay

    Any of you folks see this?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=34204

    I'm on the road, so I cannot compare closely to my '73, but this may be what you're looking for. Could need restoring. .

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    From the angles in the pictures, it looks like a ds mirror with the flag rotated-I emailed him just the same for more/better pictures.
    Thanks,
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    According to one informal source at Nissan USA, the true Passenger side(for the USA) mirror does not exist. My formal letter has not brought a formal response yet-so we will wait a bit longer.

    In the meantime, I need a bit more help from you overseas members. I am looking for at least one of these switches from an early S30-I would really like two-cosmetic condition is more important than working condition.
    The picture is of the whole panel(top and bottom)-I just want the switches-but if you have a complete panel to spare...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hls30.com
    I need a bit more help from you overseas members. I am looking for at least one of these switches from an early S30-I would really like two-cosmetic condition is more important than working condition.
    The picture is of the whole panel(top and bottom)-I just want the switches-but if you have a complete panel to spare...
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    See the pics in the previous post!
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    Even the right part number would be helpful. Even a copy of the European/JDM version of Fast.
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    The parking light switch was discussed in a previous thread by Kats [from memory],
    These are JDM switches, PM Kats for those...
    can't remember what the ones on RHS are for? anyone?????
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    *25750-E4100 COMP. SWITCH, parking lamp.

    The photos were taken from this thread:

    Parking Lamp Switch thread

    Just saving the photos in an "archive" without any context or any of the data that went with them, seems to me to be second-best to useless...........

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    Mike of the Mire,
    Thanks for the direction.

    Alan,
    I did a search before I posted, and all I found was the thread I started from last year on the same switch. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/s...ght=jdm+switch
    Thanks for the thread from 2002 you referenced-it had a great deal of info I wish I had found in 2004 on my first forray ointo finding one of these switches.
    I am still looking for one(or two). I took the photos from the archive that Texas Z has that has come back to light over the past couple of days. (One of the things I hope to do with the photos in the archive is link them to either the FSM or the fiche-in that form, pictures would be helpful, and much more easily searchable-but there must be at least two versions of the fiche, as the USA variety does not contain the parts that were not available here- would also like to create one document with all of the parts Nissan produced with part numbers for the cars)

    I figured that you(Alan) or Kats would be the best chance for getting one, so I pmed Kats right after posting, but had trouble when typing up the PM to you-wife gave the last call for "Get off the damn computer, and come to bed" Needless to say, I did...

    I was going to Pm you this morning-but your response to the thread beat me to it.
    I appreciate the part number, I have emailed all of the overseas sources I found when looking for the mirror, and am waiting for replies...

    Any and all help is, and will be, greatly appreciated.

    Will

    PS. Has anyone got a VIN for a car that came with theses switches?
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    PS30 would only be a guess, best wait for Alan or Kats...

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    An update on the mirror, the switch, and more!
    I sent another letter to Nissan USA (OK, it goes out Monday) with more details on the Mirror, and all of the details on the Switch. I also requested copies of some literature for the club.

    Will
    A Z is beautiful from any angle, I just happen to prefer to view from the drivers' seat!

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    Another update- Still only a "Japanese Inspection" reaction from Nissan-I am going to try once more politely.
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    I now have a RHS 510 mirror, a RHS 1300-1600 mirror from Austalia but not 240Z RHS mirror. I am now looking at trying to heat and bend a mirror base so it 'stands' correctly on the car. If anyone wants to build a RHS mirror, I believe that can make a fortune around the world selling them. Why doesn't anyone build a resto mirror. It would take NO time to recover your costs. at $200/@, how long would it take?
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    Look at post #12 on this thread: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/s...ht=96301-E4600

    Someone has! The problem is that the cost of the parts at less than 1000 units is just under $200, not counting 4 hours of time to cut, fit and crimp the convex glass in each mirror so that it is actually is functional.
    I will make them available (or the cast pieces and a set of instructions) after my car is done. Victor Lawry Gets the second one, and I have three more spoken for. As I said, they will be made available afer my car is done.
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