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    Default Datsun 240Z S30 RH Parts Catalogue

    This was just listed on ebay and sold for AUS$560 or approximately US$420!!!
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
    Description reads :
    "DATSUN 240Z - Model S30 - Right hand Drive models - Parts Catalogue.
    For a restorer or an enthusiast this book would be the bible. The detail is superb.
    Over 100 pages of diagrams, exploded views and information for the enthusiast.
    The book is in as new condition.
    Revised Edition : December 1970"


    The winning bidder is listed as being located in Japan and was a very serious bidder with two substantial bids. There was also interest from the UK, Australia,Canada and New Zealand.
    This is the highest price I have seen paids for any Zed publication so I suppose this particular item in good condition must be relatively rare. Are these parts catalogues so much better a reference or is it just that they are highly collectable or both?
    I have also noticed advertising brochures making higher prices on ebay auctions in recent times and am beginning to think that prices are on the rise, even for the 260Z publications.
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    That baffles me as to why anyone would pay so much for a printed copy?

    Any ideas why????????
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    The winning bidder is a member of this site; hoping he will chime in.

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    Wow. I'd love to see that catalog. I dont have a RHD, but I'd enjoy reading any piece of nostalgia thats worth that much.

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    I have the first US and Canada edition (LHD) dated 11/69.

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    How and when did you come across your LHD edition? I do not remember seeing these come up too often - in fact I cannot specifically remember these being available at all in my very short history in Zeds although I do have a copy of the CD available from ClassicZ.

    I can understand someone wanting a hard copy of anything even if it is available electronically as, for me, there is something in being able to pick it up, carry it with you, and read it where and when you like.
    I am certainly not critical of anyone paying any amount at all for something they really want and it needs to be kept in mind that the winner of an ebay auction only pays a small increment more than the second highest bidder was willing to pay.
    However, this result in an auction is starting to make me think that collecting Zed memorabilia and publications will only get more expensive in the future and maybe I need to leap in and buy while I can still afford it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boyblunda
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    How and when did you come across your LHD edition? I do not remember seeing these come up too often - in fact I cannot specifically remember these being available at all in my very short history in Zeds although I do have a copy of the CD available from ClassicZ.

    I can understand someone wanting a hard copy of anything even if it is available electronically as, for me, there is something in being able to pick it up, carry it with you, and read it where and when you like.
    I am certainly not critical of anyone paying any amount at all for something they really want and it needs to be kept in mind that the winner of an ebay auction only pays a small increment more than the second highest bidder was willing to pay.
    However, this result in an auction is starting to make me think that collecting Zed memorabilia and publications will only get more expensive in the future and maybe I need to leap in and buy while I can still afford it.
    I got it on ebay a couple of months ago and paid around $50 US. I didn't really expect to win it, but I don't think people really noticed it for some reason. I hadn't seen one before, so I think they are fairly rare. Someone contacted me soon afterward and offered to buy it for quite a bit more than I paid, but I decided to keep it for now. I have the parts CD from the club as well, but I was interested in this since it was published in 11/69 and I thought it would be interesting to see differences between my 72 and the early models. Some of the pictures in it are pretty cool and I like having the hardcopy of these. It has some funny suggestions to the dealers on some of the divider pages and a page with samples of all of the seat vinyl colors. As for collecting Z memorabilia I don't think you should buy something with the intent that it will be worth more in the future, but if you find something you like and you think it is a reasonable price then go for it.

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    Mike you lucky soB! I can just imagine someone offering you much more than you paid! And I can just imagine who it was! Mine was about three times the price you paid. Oh, well... Let me know first, if you want to sell your copy.

    All the editions of this particular catalog are fairly uncommon and will continue to get harder and harder to find. They are far more descriptive (and entertaining) than the catalogs we commonly buy in Cd version. Those are prints of the parts fische mostly. I would say any of the authentic printed versions of the S30 parts catalogs (as well as service manuals) trade for much more than one might expect. They are very collectable and probably have far more value in the hands of a collector like the guy who bought this example. I'm certain this eBay purchase went up on the shelf in the library next to his other editions.
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    Hello everyone,
    I am kats and I am datsunz903 in Ebay.

    Of cource I want to buy items as inexpensive as I can,$560 is very very expensive and I am afraid my wife will know it soon and she will get angly with it.But I do not normaly have enough time to enjoy the bidding in front of a computer.I have to bid in early stage and just see how the auction goes. Every time I find a nice item which I am looking for a long time,I think again and again,is it an once in a life time item?If I think so,then put my maximam amount which I am willing to pay.I know my maximam is crazy,but I want to get it.

    This parts catalog is not a frequent item on Ebay.That is why I put that amount.I I have a same size same condition U.S. & CANADA Nov.1969 version like Mike B and Chris mentioned.I can not say how much I paid for it(if I tell you, you will get heart attack) I paid XXX times more of this RHD version.Yes I am crazy,but you know how much I was excited when I happned to see it and I managed to buy it from previous owner.I am still very very happy to have it,and I feel I was right to pay big money because I have never had a chance to buy this catalog and like this condition once again past 6 years.I made a good decision to pay huge money to get it.It is just a book, but for me,it is more than a book.

    I need to know about RHD 240Z.It is nessesaly to know my U.S. 240Z more and more.Also about Fairlady-Z,I bought a parts catalog of Fairlady-Z.Some times I can find a fact of U.S. 240Z in the Fiarlady-Z 's parts catalog.I am assuming same thing in the RHD 240Z parts catalog.

    Attached photos are my collection.The small white one is a unique tiny Fiarlady-Z's catalog.For JDM,there are some kinds of size for the parts catalog.A big one and this small one.Both are the same contents,small one has exactly same pictures and parts number listings.

    For example,we(U.S. 240Z) can not buy sepalately 1969-70 tailgate air vent duct fittings.But look into Fairlady-Z catalog,there are individual parts number for the duct fittings.For some parts,this theory is vise versa.

    Thank you,

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    Last edited by kats; 10-15-2006 at 12:02 AM.
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    Default Congratulations Kats

    Congratulations Kats and thanks for putting your post into this thread. Now that we know the identity of the winner it helps us to understand how valuable this item would be to you.
    Crazy price? I do not really think so as it was only $10 crazier than the second highest bidder was willing to pay. I personally like your bidding style and I would bet that the seller is very happy with the price.
    Fantastic to hear of your win and to know that the item would have struggled to have ended in the hands of a more appreciative new owner.
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    Hi Kats,

    The red dot arrived. It is in very nice condition . Just one nick in the plastic cover. Ever Wing. The glass mirror must be replaced. Any ideas about who might repair the glass mirror?

    I have a copy of the small Fairlady manual. Alan sent me a scan so that I could make a correct cover for it. I did not realize it was so small! My copy is large. Very nice parts listing for S20 engine! With this Fairlady catalog, I found the correct exhaust manifold I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kats
    I need to know about RHD 240Z.It is nessesaly to know my U.S. 240Z more and more.Also about Fairlady-Z,I bought a parts catalog of Fairlady-Z.Some times I can find a fact of U.S. 240Z in the Fiarlady-Z 's parts catalog.I am assuming same thing in the RHD 240Z parts catalog.
    Hi Kats,
    Congratulations on your purchase. That must be the earliest version of the Export RHD parts lists. Very very rare I think. Don't feel guilty about the amount you paid, as I think the information and cross-referencing that it provides will keep paying you back for many years to come.

    The updated editions are also of interest, as they sometimes corrected mistakes or anomalies and gave good clues as to why parts were changed or superseded.

    My feeling is that in order to fully understand each individual S30/S31-series model you need to try to understand the whole family of contemporary models. And in order to understand the later additions to the family, you need to try to understand everything possible about the models and variants that came before them.

    Alan T.

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    It may be a good idea to compile a list of both LHD and RHD editions of the parts books which were made. I have recently purchased a RHD copy dated December 1972 and it shows as being the third revision (assume to the RHD specific cars).

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    Has anyone else seen this set of mircrofiche copies on eBay?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1182265&rd=1,1

    It appears to just be copies of the microfiche that someone has printed and bound with a plastic spiral binder. The bidding is at $103.01 for this, and that seems kind of high to me for something that is just a book of bound copies. I wonder if this is due to confusion over the actual dealer parts catalogs?

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    Thank you everyone,I made a good purchase.
    Alan gave me a homework,I am willing to learn everything related S30.

    The RHD manual arrived and I am very happy it is a very good condition.
    This is a FIRST OVERALL RIVISED edition,and it says 4th rivision from the bigining dated DEC 1970.I think the blue huge binder must be made in Nov 1969 as a first edition,other contents are all rivised DEC 1970 including a rivision info card which is in a side plastic pocket.A page for interior color trim instruction is dated Dec 1969,this proves the manual is revised collectly as instructed,this page is an only one should be remained from the begining.

    I have a LHD Nov 1969 issued manual,it has got 1st and 2nd rivision with an original master edition.What is an amazing thing is they all exist no missing page,I mean there are Nov 1969 originals and Mar 1970 1st rivision and June 1970 2nd rivision.It is a fun to see the differences between them.

    My question of steering lock has just got an answer!The RHD early 240Z has a WASO key and steering lock is different from the early JDM and LHD.I was expecting it and I see the part number for it.
    It syas three color of trims black and tan and blue,but I have never seen blue trims in RHD 240Z.Has anyone seen it?

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    Chris,this is a famillier large version of Fairlady-Z parts catalog.
    It was on Yahoo japan auction and sold yesterday aprrox.$380 U.S. it is a good price in Japan.Everything expensive in Japan,totaly restored Z432 is like $80000 U.S.

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    I should get a home equity loan, come visit you, and we would go shopping for a Z432.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike B
    Has anyone else seen this set of mircrofiche copies on eBay?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1182265&rd=1,1

    It appears to just be copies of the microfiche that someone has printed and bound with a plastic spiral binder. The bidding is at $103.01 for this, and that seems kind of high to me for something that is just a book of bound copies. I wonder if this is due to confusion over the actual dealer parts catalogs?
    Hi Mike:
    We had an IZCC club member in California that had about 100 or so hard copies printed about 10 or 12 years ago.. He sold them to the other members and on-line for about $25.00 originally. (it was Roger ???)

    FWIW,
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    Quote Originally Posted by kats
    It syas three color of trims black and tan and blue,but I have never seen blue trims in RHD 240Z.Has anyone seen it?

    kats
    Nope I've never heard of an Australian Delivered 240Z with a blue interior.
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    Smile Early RH Drive S30 Catalogue

    Congratulations KATS, well done. I am happy to see this rare book went to a you, knowing how interested you are in early S30 models, it could not find a better home. Good luck studying the detail. If you find any obscure interesting points please share them with the FORUM, I always enjoy your information when you share it with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Beck
    Hi Mike:
    We had an IZCC club member in California that had about 100 or so hard copies printed about 10 or 12 years ago.. He sold them to the other members and on-line for about $25.00 originally. (it was Roger ???)

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    Carl, it was Rex Jennet.
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    Kats,

    Congratulations on your find!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kats
    I am afraid my wife will know it soon and she will get angly with it.
    Kat's, Im not making fun of your english, but does anyone else see the irony in this statement and spelling? It really made me laugh as I pictured my ex's angular expression as she ranted about one of my spending sprees.
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    Thank you every one,
    but Enigma,let me think about what is funny. I need to know what is a good point making you laugh!

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    Kats:
    All of us try to hide purchases from our wives....otherwise we'd be commiting suicide and Hara Kiri would at least be honorable.

    The problem is that they eventually DO find out and WHEN they do the expressions on their face are usually very funny.

    When you spelled A N G R Y with an "L", it became ANGLY which refers to something that has a lot of ANGLES.

    Enigma was probably referring to his ex-wife's look when he would get caught spending money and she looked at him at an odd angle....as if he wasn't altogether straight with her.....or maybe cause Enigma can be a little out of whack too? (J/K)

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