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    Default 280Z Full Restore in 5 months, hopefully.

    Figured I'd share this 280 build for anyone interested. I had a 240 build thread going on awhile ago, but that project has currently gone on hiatus and the cars sitting in my enclosed trailer in the back yard. It's going to require more work than I can give it right now.

    I found a good price on a 1978 280Z original owner, hopefully it will be a straight forward restoration, I decided to pick it up and start another project. This time I'm on a time line, I'll be moving to California at the end of the year and won't have the garage space to do any major work on it. This being said, the time crunch is on!

    This is the picture of me taking her home. Bought it from the original owner and it has been sitting in his garage since 1995.
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    Decided to see if the engine would run after sitting for almost 10 year. Changed the wires, oil, plugs, etc. basic tune up stuff. End up having to the fuel pump and she fired right up. The engine has some crusty vacuum hoses, which could explain why she didn't want to idle.
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    Also had to clear this out, looks like someone decided to keep their food there.
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    So I got the engine running, it's still going to get a full rebuild, I was just curious if it ran.

    I was going to originally have the whole car soda blasted to save time, but I had some paint stripper laying around so I decided to try it out. I put a few coats on and the paint started coming off like butter. So instead of spending the $800 to get it blasted, I'm going to go this route with some sand blasting if needed.

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    The fenders are going to need patches welded on in the bottom, typical Datsun rust. Also the doors are going to need some work. The driver's door has some bondo that I'm going to grind off and see what's behind it. Still have a lot of body work to do.
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    Pulled the engine so I can get the engine bay blasted and looking sharp.
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    It started raining on me, so I had to stop blasting. As soon as I get some free time, I'll finish that up.

    An engine hoist makes it easy to get underneath the car to do some blasting. After I get some more progress on the body work I'm going to drop the front and rear suspension, blast it, and have it all powder coated.

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    Doors off so I can start working on them. I won't be able to do much this week, but next weekend I hope to have some primer on, so I can continue on the body work.
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    Car's instagram: @eleanorz_78

    "It's the Dodge Viper of 1970, in Japan"

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    Squirrels are notorious for stashing their nuts in the engine bay

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    You sure have pinned yourself into a corner. Don't know your abilities but 5 months is unrealistic for some shops, let alone one person . I wish you luck and watch with interest.
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    The body does not look too bad!
    There is scarcely anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse, and sell a little more cheaply.
    The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey.


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    Quote Originally Posted by madkaw View Post
    You sure have pinned yourself into a corner. Don't know your abilities but 5 months is unrealistic for some shops, let alone one person . I wish you luck and watch with interest.
    I know 5 months is a huge time crunch, but so far I feel like I'm on schedule. Although we all know that could change in a heartbeat. My dad is helping me and also any friends I can gather up. The body really isn't that bad, so that alleviates a lot of work. Worse case scenario, if I can get paint and engine done before I move, I can do interior in California.
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    It's those unexpected things that kill the schedule .
    I guess your having the engine rebuilt by someone else or are you doing that also.
    The bodywork usually is the time killer, so it helps the car is pretty solid
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    Quote Originally Posted by madkaw View Post
    It's those unexpected things that kill the schedule .
    I guess your having the engine rebuilt by someone else or are you doing that also.
    The bodywork usually is the time killer, so it helps the car is pretty solid
    I'm rebuilding the engine myself, it's a simple motor. Of course the machine work I'll have to take somewhere. Hopefully it will just need some honing, valve job, and check the head. I'm tearing the engine down this weekend.
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    What paint stripper did you use? It worked great.
    I'm just hoping to get anything done in the next 5 months.

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    5 months, WOW, that'll be a butt load of work in that time frame, I wish you the best, mine has been 2 years doing a "refresh."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley View Post
    What paint stripper did you use? It worked great.
    I'm just hoping to get anything done in the next 5 months.
    This is what I have been using. It takes a few coats, but you just put it on, wait for it to bubble, then scrap it off. Definitely wear gloves, it burns a little when you get it on the skin. That's how you know it's good. I got it at either Hope Depot or Lowes.
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    Body parts everywhere! I am in the thick of it for sure. Making great forward momentum though.


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    Great project, love the green/butterscotch!
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    Made some killer progress this weekend. I should clarify what I mean by "Full Restore". Is it not going to be a trailer queen, but it will be a damn good weekend driver.

    Got the paint 99% stripped. Spent many hours behind the blaster, while I had friends grinding and sanding. Looks like the driver door took a good wack, had a good amount of bondo on it. And the right rear quarter had some bondo where it took a good wack also. What's funny is I bought this car from the original owner and didn't even think to ask if it's ever been in a wreck, haha. Whoever did the body work did a really good job, the bondo was on there pretty good. But all and all it's nothing that's not repairable, it's just how it goes with 30 year old cars.

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    Stripped the interior completely besides the dash. The plan is to spray LizardSkin in to quiet the ride and keep the temps down. Also found these guys will tearing it all part. It will be a neat thing to have for car shows.Attachment 65224

    Took a break from body work and tore the engine down completely. The engine has definitely been sitting for 18 years. Even with an oil change and running the engine for 30 minutes a few weeks ago, their was sludge everywhere. The engine will need some hot tanking for sure.

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    Piston #1 is looking a little rough, so in an attempt to save money and time this engine is going to sit on the shelf for awhile. I have a 280 engine that my dad completely rebuilt for my 240 project that has zero miles on it. It already has the higher compression pistons and bigger cam. Doing this will save me the time of rebuilding it since I'm on a time crunch.
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    ahh.. bummer, not sure why the pictures didn't show up. Let me see if I can fix it.
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    Woah those are some big pictures.
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    Back to body work. Got 2 coats of primer on so I can see exactly what kind of body work I'm looking at. Primer went on very smooth. Didn't get everything primed, but got a lot.

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    Both front fenders need patch panels welded on at the bottom and they have some other rust issues. I bought one patch panel last week so I could start working on it. After looking at them closer I said scratch that, and I ordered two new fenders from Black Dragon. Time is money and two new fenders will save some time.
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    Has anyone seen these before?
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    I have never seen these before and my car didn't have them. They go over the tool storage compartments behind the seats. How do you get to them? I had no access to these compartments with my carpet going over them.
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    Those are on the earlier 280's. My 77 doesn't have them. Great project you have there. It's more enjoyable with a group of friends for sure. I would like to do mine again. Keep the pics coming.

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    I am liking this thread. Love the ambition! Watching with interest indeed.

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    That's an appendage from the 240. The 240's had storage compartments behind the seats on the rear deck. Yes, quite useless on our 280s lol.

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    I have never seen these before and my car didn't have them. They go over the tool storage compartments behind the seats. How do you get to them? I had no access to these compartments with my carpet going over them.

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    Its a long time since Ive seen a Datsun tyre inflation can. They are getting really hard to find these days.
    Like most 280Z's its hard to survive 35 years and more without contacting something along the way. If it has not damaged the structure its ok. Panels, doors etc are fixable/replacable.

    You are really moving at a blistering pace. How many friends have you got working on it? Its like watching your favorite TV series, cant wait till the next episode

    Goodluck and don't forget to enjoy it along the way. Restoring is part of "journey'

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    Thanks for the encouragement guys. So far it's been between 4 or 5 of us hitting it hard on the weekends. One of my buddies likes to sandblast, that's the dammdest thing, haha. I hate it, so it works out very well. Over Hauling does a complete car in a week with a unlimited budget and 30 some people. Hopefully I can do 5 months with 5 people.
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    Ordered the front air dam, Ebach lowering springs, Tokico HP shocks, master bushing kit, and MSA sway bar kit. Getting things ready so I'll be able to tackle the suspension soon.

    Making some killer progress on the body. The hood is looking good. I'll need to prime it again to do a final check.
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    Headlight buckets are all done, they just needed a little work.
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    One of the doors has some rust holes on the bottom so got a patch panel made for it. Got that welded on and started getting it ready for bondo. Couldn't ask for it to come out any better.

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    And welded on.
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    Started working on the rear quarter. It's still going to need more work. It took a good beating some point in it's life.
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    Something else that I'm pretty excited about is the air cleaner housing. My dad surprised me and blasted it and painted it for me. It came out great. It's really going to make the engine compartment pop! I was going to go with some sort of aftermarket intake, but I think this stock intake with a good air filter will work just as well and look even better.

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    With the clear this thing screams! Can't wait to see it in the car.
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    Is the fenders you ordered Nissans?
    You made a wise choice in avoiding the fender repair. Those patch panels would have eaten a ton of time and would have been extremely hard to make look good.
    I'd be suspicious of the fit of aftermarket fenders
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    Quote Originally Posted by madkaw View Post
    Is the fenders you ordered Nissans?
    You made a wise choice in avoiding the fender repair. Those patch panels would have eaten a ton of time and would have been extremely hard to make look good.
    I'd be suspicious of the fit of aftermarket fenders

    I ordered them from Black Dragon Auto. Nissan wanted $770 something out the door and Black Dragon was $500 something. They come in today, I'll let you know how they look and if they are OEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madkaw View Post
    Is the fenders you ordered Nissans?
    You made a wise choice in avoiding the fender repair. Those patch panels would have eaten a ton of time and would have been extremely hard to make look good.
    I'd be suspicious of the fit of aftermarket fenders

    I ordered them from Black Dragon Auto. Nissan wanted $770 something out the door and Black Dragon was $500 something. They come in today, I'll let you know how they look and if they are OEM.
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    That air cleaner looks brilliant. Did you sand blast it before painting it? The colour looks pretty close on the photo's

    Your making good progress.
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    Since you're on a time-budget, you should know that you probably won't get those Tokicos anytime soon unless you found a place that had them in stock. Tokico's distributor went out of business so there haven't been any new shocks delivered to the US for a while now, AFAIK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroDat View Post
    That air cleaner looks brilliant. Did you sand blast it before painting it? The colour looks pretty close on the photo's

    Your making good progress.
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    It was sand blasted before the paint. The sand blaster has been running pretty constant so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonV View Post
    Since you're on a time-budget, you should know that you probably won't get those Tokicos anytime soon unless you found a place that had them in stock. Tokico's distributor went out of business so there haven't been any new shocks delivered to the US for a while now, AFAIK.
    I got them off Amazon which said they had 8 left. Hopefully the website wasn't lying. If it was, I'm not sure what I'll do.
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    Got the fenders in today. Don't have a chance to check them out, but my Dad sent me a picture. He said they look great. No OEM Nissan sticker on them, so I'm assuming they are aftermarket.

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    Just an FYI, I bought original NISSAN front fenders and the brackets did not match, these were even covered in NISSAN wrapping. Point being, no matter where the panels come from there will be the need for fittment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie View Post
    Just an FYI, I bought original NISSAN front fenders and the brackets did not match, these were even covered in NISSAN wrapping. Point being, no matter where the panels come from there will be the need for fittment.
    Yeah, I'm a little concerned on how they'll actually bolt up. Hopefully I'll get them mocked up soon to see how they fit.
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    Tonight I ordered black seat skins with the embroidered "Z" on the head rest with matching e-brake/ shift boot. I'm switching the interior to black so here's the first step. Making progress!!!
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    Got the battery tray cut out and removed the remaining tray that's pictured. Hopefully get it too my sheet metal guy in the next 2 days to see what he can do.

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    Can't wait to see pics of the seats.

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    More progress being made. Got the seat skins in, they look great! Can't wait to get them to the upholstery to see the final product.

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    Got the rear bumper filler off to get it ready for the 240 bumpers.
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    The suspension and fuel/brake lines has been completely dropped, disassembled and primed. I dropped the brackets and control arms off at the powder coat shop to get coated black. Hopefully they'll be done this week so I can reassemble them this weekend. Spindles are kicking my butt still, I cut them into pieces to separate the control arm, still need to get them hammered out from the strut assemble.

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    Fenders primed and welded in the emblem holes, with some grinding and bondo over them.
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    Made another big parts purchase, ordered the 240 bumpers front and rear and a bunch of things from Autozone.
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    The parts not being powder coated have their 1st layer of primer.

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    I spent a lot of hours over the weekend behind the sand blaster, nothing fun about it, but it has to get done.
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    Your not a Z veteran until you have done spindle pins. They would be up there at the top of the list for worsed jobs you can do on a Z.
    Your project is on steroids. Hope you can keep it up. What you have done in a couple of weeks would take me like 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroDat View Post
    Your not a Z veteran until you have done spindle pins. They would be up there at the top of the list for worsed jobs you can do on a Z.
    Your project is on steroids. Hope you can keep it up. What you have done in a couple of weeks would take me like 2 years.
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    Thanks. I pulled the spindles out of my 240 before and I remember thinking "How the hell am I going to do this?". Two things are allowing this project to go so quickly. Having enough money saved up so I don't have to wait on ordering parts, and having friends and family help me. Without those two I'd still be in the beginning stages. It's crazy how much you can get down when you have 4 people working on it at once.
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    Picked up an 83' 5 speed and 3.90 rear end a couple months ago. Got the rear end blasted and rear painted with the diff cover clear. The trans was painted black, blasted that and am going to clear over the aluminum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CG240Z View Post
    Has anyone seen these before?
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    I have never seen these before and my car didn't have them. They go over the tool storage compartments behind the seats. How do you get to them? I had no access to these compartments with my carpet going over them.
    My 240 has them. The carpet wasn't attached all the way to the lip, and there's a flap to uncover them. The interior of my boxes are lined in foam. Dunno if that's factory, or a measure the PO took to protect them. I can take a picture later if you want.

    Great progress, btw!
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    What are your plans for the front grill and bumper? I see your want to remove the 280Z bumpers and just wondering what are your plans for the front. The air dam looks like a 280Z type, I cant see if it has the recesses for the 240/260Z indicators on the photo. So just wondering how you will go about it.

    I changed my 280Z bumpers to 240Z and still not really happy with the front. I have the PU air dam for the 240Z and the indicators but still looking at ways toget the grill to match the bumper without big gaps.
    Been looking at modifying the metal shield that fitted behind the bumper and attached to the bumper shocks and front fenders. The other option is to make a new grill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroDat View Post
    What are your plans for the front grill and bumper? I see your want to remove the 280Z bumpers and just wondering what are your plans for the front. The air dam looks like a 280Z type, I cant see if it has the recesses for the 240/260Z indicators on the photo. So just wondering how you will go about it.

    I changed my 280Z bumpers to 240Z and still not really happy with the front. I have the PU air dam for the 240Z and the indicators but still looking at ways toget the grill to match the bumper without big gaps.
    Been looking at modifying the metal shield that fitted behind the bumper and attached to the bumper shocks and front fenders. The other option is to make a new grill.
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    The front bumper will be 240, the grill will be 280 with the turn signals in the light, valence is 280 with brake vents. I like the 240 front valence better with the blinkers built in, but I have the 280 valence, and I'm okay with it. As far as the 280 grill and 240 bumpers going to go together, I'm not sure how they'll match up. I haven't gotten to the stage of mocking things up. I'll keep you posted when I get there.
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    More progress made.

    Got both the spindles out finally. They key was to stand on a stool to get even more leverage with a hammer. Safe and smart right? haha

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    My buddies taping up some holes in the firewall, getting it ready for primer.
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    The primer laid out very smoothly. I've been using an Eastwood Epoxy primer. It sprays very easily and coats very thick. Couldn't be happier with the product.
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    I didn't prime around the battery tray, because it's just a hole and I'm still waiting on the new one from the metal shop. That will need to get welded in.
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    Next up is blasting and painting the rear strut assemblies.
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    Started getting the rear brakes put together.
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    Got most of the front suspension put back together. The driver side rack and pinion bushing isn't fitting, I need to call the company to see what they say. So until then, I can't get that bolted down. I got most of my parts back from the powder coat shop. Holy cow did they come out great! The parts look brand new! Really excited about this. Also got the new MSA sway bars on. Much thicker than stock. They are beefy for this little Z.

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    Just an example of the powder coating, this brake shield looks brand new. You couldn't buy something new this nice.
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    One more update, worked on removing the original rubber floor insulation. The driver side I used a heat gun, was messy and didn't come off that well. Passenger side and rear decided to try the dry ice method. I will never touch a heat gun again! Not only was it fun, but it worked great. The ice froze up all the insulation, and it came off in fairly big chucks with just a tae of a hammer in chisel.

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    So much still do it, just have to keep trucking and enjoy the journey!
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    Dry ice works great, you're right about never going back to heat gunning it.

    Have you planned to reinforce the mounting for the sway bars? There was a post just today about the effects the upgraded bars can have on even rust-free mounts on these cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virto View Post
    Dry ice works great, you're right about never going back to heat gunning it.

    Have you planned to reinforce the mounting for the sway bars? There was a post just today about the effects the upgraded bars can have on even rust-free mounts on these cars.
    I haven't seen the thread yet, I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the heads up. I was looking at Bad Dog's sway bar plates. They look pretty simply to make. I am definitely going to want to do some kind of reinforcement. Last thing I want is for the frame to crack.
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    I think the Bad Dog plates are like 35 bucks, but they do look fairly simple. Just depends on if you'd rather spend the time fabbing some or buy them and weld them on. For 30 bucks, the cost seems reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virto View Post
    I think the Bad Dog plates are like 35 bucks, but they do look fairly simple. Just depends on if you'd rather spend the time fabbing some or buy them and weld them on. For 30 bucks, the cost seems reasonable.

    I hear what you are saying. I don't really have time, so prefabbed brackets aren't a bad idea. I just ordered a set,. If $32 keeps my frame from cracking, I'm good with that. I'm thinking about ordering their weld in jack points too, looks convenient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CG240Z View Post
    The front bumper will be 240, the grill will be 280 with the turn signals in the light, valence is 280 with brake vents. I like the 240 front valence better with the blinkers built in, but I have the 280 valence, and I'm okay with it. As far as the 280 grill and 240 bumpers going to go together, I'm not sure how they'll match up. I haven't gotten to the stage of mocking things up. I'll keep you posted when I get there.
    Im still playing with mine. Not real happy with the gap between the grill and the bumper. I can set the bumper further back to the grill, but then the sides dont line up with the recess in the vender at the wheel arch.
    Thinking about fitting the trim that covers the cap between the 280Z bumper and the grill. Ill take some photos of my progress so far, which is very very slow compared to you

    Later Ill fit the 240Z air-dam plus indicators, but for now it has the 280Z valences. The original grill under the bumper is way too small and leaves a big gap.

    You can also try the JDM grill that 1 tuff Z (on Hybridz) made. You can order them via MSA. There is also a thread here about it. You will need to remove the 280Z indicators.

    Cheers and goodluck. Dry ice has the WOW effect.
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    Progress is being made! But lately it has been fighting every inch of the way!

    Gas tank painted, looks good!
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    Got the patch for the inner fender and battery tray welded in. I know it doesn't look original, but it's rust free and it works. Plus the battery will be on top and no one will ever be able to tell.
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    Pops welding in the sway bar reinforcement to the frame rail.
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    Got the engine bay painted and fuel lines installed. That's a huge step. It's hard to tell the exact color in the picture, but you'd recognize it from Gone in 60 seconds. It's Eleanor's paint color. It came out really well and I can't wait to see when the whole car is painted, but lots of body work needs to be done first. Maybe I need to call this project Eleanor Z now?

    Front and rear suspension put in! The u-joints kicked my ass on the half shafts, the ears on the yolks were bent in so I couldn't get the C clips on. Had to heat them all up and give them some good smacks with a big hammer. The powder coated parts came out better than expected. Plus I added the Arizona Z billet mustache bar for some bling. It looks great.

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    The toughest thing about the front suspension was putting the urethane Tension arm bushings in. They have absolutely no give, so trying to get the bar to line up with the control arm was no easy task.

    Also my driver's side bushing on the rack and pinion doesn't fit at all, in my opinion it's flat out the wrong design. I googled this and have read other drivers having this same problem. Some suggested boiling it and stretching it out, tried it, it had no give at all. I e-mail the company stating that their bushing was no where close to fitting, they basically said I was crazy, so I e-mailed them back with a picture of it not fitting. Then they e-mailed me with a phone number to a random "Z expert" customer saying call him and he can help. Thanks, that was a helpful answer...not at all.
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    Next up is to get the engine bay ready for the engine and BODY WORK BODY WORK BODY WORK. It's the most time consuming and is going to make this car look great.
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    Also I forgot to note that the MSA sway bars are thick and are pretty close to matching the paint. I like them a lot! They were a bit of a pain putting them in, just from the tension and getting in the way of things, but well worth it!
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    Here's it sitting on all fours. You can't tell, but everything below the doors is restored. Now it's time for everything floor up.
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    Ordered the complete interior kit and header. Pretty exciting! Just keep throwing thousands into the car and it will start looking nice, right? That's the plan anyways. Hoping to get the body work done and painted in 3 weeks. So far I've been holding to my timeline, which is remarkable.
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    I forgot, also dropping the gas tank off this week to get it boiled. I tried running various chemicals through it to get all the crap and rust out. It looks a lot better than it did when I first dropped it, but it still has junk in it. Boiling should get it looking brand new.
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    I don't think it's going to take you anywhere near 5 months to get this car done at your present rate.
    Love the pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by grannyknot View Post
    I don't think it's going to take you anywhere near 5 months to get this car done at your present rate.
    Love the pics
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    I know, right? He's done more in 5 minutes of each day he's had the car than I've done in 5 years.
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    Impressive CG240Z! keep them pics a comin! I'm getting motivated again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CG240Z View Post
    The u-joints kicked my ass on the half shafts, the ears on the yolks were bent in so I couldn't get the C clips on. Had to heat them all up and give them some good smacks with a big hammer.


    The toughest thing about the front suspension was putting the urethane Tension arm bushings in. They have absolutely no give, so trying to get the bar to line up with the control arm was no easy task.
    Hope you didn't get things mis-aligned with the banging. Nissan actually sold, or still does sell, sets of matched C clips of various thickness to get the joint perfectly centered and toleranced. It may be that your yokes were just on the narrow side, not bent at all. Probably could have sanded or ground down the clips instead. For future reference, if you get some vibration. Also, if you heat the yokes up while removing the old joints they come out much easier, and less likely to bend the yoke. Future ref again.

    On the TC rod bushings - I fought mine also when I first installed them, then found out later that they drop right in if you install them with the car on the ground. There's room. You could probably get the same effect by jacking a wheel up partially. With the suspension hanging the alignment is not right for installation.

    Looks great.
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    Thanks for motivation guys! I'm trying to get it done. The upside of moving this fast is that it's harder to lose motivation. My last project I moved a lot slower and got lost in the weeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed Head View Post
    Hope you didn't get things mis-aligned with the banging. Nissan actually sold, or still does sell, sets of matched C clips of various thickness to get the joint perfectly centered and toleranced. It may be that your yokes were just on the narrow side, not bent at all. Probably could have sanded or ground down the clips instead. For future reference, if you get some vibration. Also, if you heat the yokes up while removing the old joints they come out much easier, and less likely to bend the yoke. Future ref again.

    On the TC rod bushings - I fought mine also when I first installed them, then found out later that they drop right in if you install them with the car on the ground. There's room. You could probably get the same effect by jacking a wheel up partially. With the suspension hanging the alignment is not right for installation.

    Looks great.
    Tricks of the trade. Thanks for the insight. The yokes were so close together that I couldn't see any gap for the rings. I measured them all with a micrometer and everyone was different. My fingers are crossed I don't get any vibration.

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    Went to the dealership today to order some parts. This bad boy was sitting outside, 370 Nismo. Only $52k. Ouch! I'm not sure she's worth all that, but it's definitely a good looking car.

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    Engine and trans are in, not hooked up, but in! I was going to start hooking it up, but shifted my focus to body work. It's the most time consuming part.
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    (Trans is sitting next to the car in this picture)

    The transmission put up a good fight, I'm installing polyurethane bushings everywhere, and they are such a pain. They are over sized compared to the stock rubber and makes everything barely fit.

    I did notice I had a broken exhaust stud in the head. Worked a couple hours on it with easy outs, no luck. Looks like I'm going to have to drill it out and get a helicoil in it.

    As you can see, I only use the best tools with my easy outs.
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    I take the 55' Chevy out for parts runs.
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    Got the jams, rear spoiler, front/rear bumper, hood, and front air dam primed.
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    Rear bumper holes welded up, next is to get some filler over it to smooth things out.
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    I work for the government so as of now I'm furloughed, to me it means more time to work on the Datsun! We'll see what happens tonight to see if I get more Datsun time or not.
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    You are a madman! Can't wait to see the final product, keep it up.
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    You are so lucky. I work for the govt too but unfortunately i'm deemed essential and have to work
    thru the shutdown. I would love to have a week or two off to work on the z.

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    Thanks for the responses. When I wrote that I thought I wasn't essential, apparently I am, and I got sent down to Florida for the shutdown. So now I'm getting the exact opposite, no time to work on the Z!! It's killing me. My dad has been doing some tinkering on it while I'm gone. He started mocking up the fenders. Apperently they are fitting like Chinese fenders, and not OEM fitment. That's disappointing to hear because the whole point of buying new fenders was to save time, now it's going to take time to get these to fit. Just how it goes in the Datsun world. Hopefully this shutdown will end soon so I can get back to work on it!

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    I've been meaning to throw in some updates, but everyone knows how the busy schedule goes, it gets in the way of Z time. First update is that aftermarket parts have been kicking my ass!

    I purchased new fenders from Black Dragon. The fit was absolutely horrid! First glance, they appear to be very well made fenders, but fitment is a whole other issue. Right off the bat they wouldn't bolt up correctly, had to do some grinding near the headlight bezel to even get them to set into place. Next problem was the gaps were incredibly bad, not an even gap anywhere. The doors were hitting the fenders, the hood was hitting the fenders, and there was a 1.5" between the fenders and cowling. My dad spent about 40 hrs working on them, trying to get everything aligned. Welding in some metal on some gaps, grinding other parts, etc. They absolutely would not fit. So for ****s and giggles, I said lets try my rusty original fenders. I pop them on and BAM, all the gaps are perfect and fitment is perfect. Ended up cutting on the $600 Black Dragon fenders and using them as patch panels for my original fenders. The BD fenders were a complete waste of money and time. I called the company and told them about all my fitment issues and they said they've never heard of any problems before. I told them they must have never actually tried to use these fenders, because there was absolutely no way they would work. Needless to say, they were unable to resolve my issue or cared to help.

    Secondly, I bought a set of 240 fiberglass bumpers off ebay, the front bumper was about 5-6 inches too wide and the rear bumper's angles were completely wrong. The ends of it were pointed at a 45 degree angle away from the car. Also the "brackets" that came welded on them were complete junk and I had to fabricate and reweld my own. So for the front bumper I ended up cutting it in 3 pieces, shortening it, and re-fiberglassing it back together. The rear I cut the sides off and glassed in my own. Both bumpers turned out great, after hours of work that shouldn't have needed to be done.

    Here's a picture of where I cut the bumper into 3 pieces, mounted the sides, and then measured the inside piece for proper fitment.
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    Sorry for the rant guys, but I expect after spending good money on parts, they would be produced with some kind of quality control. It seems lately whatever I buy doesn't come close to fitting. I do have good news though, that's coming in my next post.
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    Now for some good news! The car has been painted! I had three day weekend, so pops and I put in some serious hours and shot it Sunday. It came out really well, but once I do the final wetsand on it to smooth out a few minor things, the paint will be great! I am beyond pleased with the results. The cars still on jacks so I haven't been able to roll it out yet to see it in the sun completely. The car is easier to work on when it's on jack stands.

    Here we rolled the car outside to look for any more imperfections before we put the final coat of primer on.
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    After I primed it, doing the final wet sand before we apply paint.
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    The night before painting was a late night, even had the girlfriend helping tape up.
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    3 coats of base and a gallon of clear later I have a shiny car!
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    Test fitted the front bumper and it looks great. You can't beat the lines on a Z. Now it's how fast can I put this car back together! The plan is by February 1st. It's past my original goal, but I'm okay with that. I knew from the beginning there would be delays, and there definitely has been.
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    Tonight I ordered another $1600 worth of parts. Got the wheels/tires ordered, along with the complete weatherstripping kit, and a few random odds and ends. I can't wait to start putting this car back together.
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    Nice colour, great work. It will look great when its back together.
    What grill are you planning to use with the 240Z bumper? The original bottom section tends to leave a big gap between it and the bumper due to the 280Z bumper being so big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroDat View Post
    Nice colour, great work. It will look great when its back together.
    What grill are you planning to use with the 240Z bumper? The original bottom section tends to leave a big gap between it and the bumper due to the 280Z bumper being so big.
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    That's a good question. I was going to put the 280 grill on and go from there. Maybe have to make or modify a grill. Do you have any suggestions?
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    Don't worry about it. mine turned out fine looks great love the color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CG240Z View Post
    That's a good question. I was going to put the 280 grill on and go from there. Maybe have to make or modify a grill. Do you have any suggestions?
    That the route I took. Still debating on what to do with the section under the bumper though. Toying with the idea of going over to the 240Z Xeon air dam with the 240Z turn signals. I have the turn signal already so I can go either way.

    I ended up fitting the trim I mentioned in post #54. The brackets for the bumper are now aluminium, but it will be stainless steel when finished.

    Its not finished yet, but here are some photos.
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    Im also open for suggestions.

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    Looking good after that paint job ! I love how you Americans just DIY paint in the garage
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    A little more progress has been made! I still have a ton to do before she's on the road. The big updates are, got the murder mat in, header back exhaust in (except muffler), and new shoes on.

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    Murder Mat is in. I have good coverage on mostly everything. I hope it quiets the road a bit. Installing it is an art form, one that I'm not too good at. But I figure the carpets going over it, so it should be fine.

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    It has Eibach lowering springs, but the back is sitting a bit too high. I'll wait till I get everything in, but I might have to chop the rear springs a little. Hopefully I can make some more progress this weekend. I can't wait to get this car on the road!!
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    What is the specs for the wheels? They fit well in the photo. Starting to take shape now. Nice
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    WOW that looks great! I am very impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroDat View Post
    What is the specs for the wheels? They fit well in the photo. Starting to take shape now. Nice
    The wheels I got from MSA. They are 17" Konig's with a +6mm offset. Tires are 205/50r17. Full lock to full lock nothing hits and everything clears well. I wanted 16" wheels, but couldn't find anything I liked, so I went up to 17". 15" I was worried wouldn't clear my brakes.

    Thanks for the positive comments.
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    to lower it in the back try using 240z spring perches.
    i lowered mine quite a bit that way.Those are my favorite wheels good choice.

    The red one was lowered in the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CG240Z View Post
    The wheels I got from MSA. They are 17" Konig's with a +6mm offset. Tires are 205/50r17. Full lock to full lock nothing hits and everything clears well. I wanted 16" wheels, but couldn't find anything I liked, so I went up to 17". 15" I was worried wouldn't clear my brakes.

    Thanks for the positive comments.
    I thought they looked familiar. They really set it off. Love the last photo with the autumn colours.

    Hr369 tip is a good one. The 240z and 260Z tower insulators will lower it about an inch. If you cut springs, it will harden the ride because your shortening the spring length.
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    Just out of curiosity,
    Your using the Xeon 280Z airdam? Im wondering what the "gap" distance between bonnet and top of the airdam is.
    In your last photo, it looks like its a lot less than the standard valance panel. It should be less because its also replacing the small grille under the original bumper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hr369 View Post
    to lower it in the back try using 240z spring perches.
    i lowered mine quite a bit that way.Those are my favorite wheels good choice.

    The red one was lowered in the rear.
    This is what it looked like after.

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    Thanks for the advice! That's exactly what I will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroDat View Post
    Just out of curiosity,
    Your using the Xeon 280Z airdam? Im wondering what the "gap" distance between bonnet and top of the airdam is.
    In your last photo, it looks like its a lot less than the standard valance panel. It should be less because its also replacing the small grille under the original bumper.
    Thanks Chas
    Is is the Xeon airdam, I really like the way it looks. I don't have the exact measurement on me, but I can measure it for you. I test fitted the top grill with the 240 bumper and I don't think it looks that bad. The stock 280 bottom grill is worthless with this setup. I'm not sure if I will leave the bottom space empty or try to make some sort of grill. That is something that I will figure out once I get the lights and top grill put in and can get a better overall picture of the front end.
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    Keep in mind that new springs will always sit high in the rear until they settle in. It can take several months for that to happen. Personally, I would wait until then before I decided to take any drastic action to lower the rear as you may negatively impact handling.

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    A little more progress is being made. I'm getting the fun stuff now, I don't have more body work to do.

    I ordered a bunch of stainless steel bolt kits, I laid them out so I could grab a bag when needed. These kits have already proven themselves! No more searching through my poorly labeled bag bolts for rusty bolts I have to clean. Now I have brand new bolts that are clearly labeled. Also had some help labeling all the weatherstripping bags to make finding them easier.

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    Got my door panels back from the upholstery guy, I bought all the interior pieces from Z Car Source. I didn't realize the design was different from factory. Not many options though when buying a new interior, so I'll take it.

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    All window chrome polished and windows cleaned with a razor blade. Glass looks brand new! A shot of my half cleaned window. Notice the '95 inspection, I'm thinking I'll keep it on their for kicks.

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    Took the rear quarter glass apart to replace all the weather stripping. The edges were full of dirt from the old weather stripping.
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    Lastly got the muffler installed and tucked up nicely. I put the header back exhaust on a couple of weekends ago, now it's finished up with the muffler installed. The chrome tip that came with the MSA exhaust kit stuck out way too much. Cut it in half and welded it on. I'm glad the muffler was able to be tucked in, I don't like the look of seeing half the muffler hanging out below the car. I've also been debating on whether to put the 240 rear bumper on. It has already been fitted and painted, but I'm really liking the way the rear looks without a bumper. All the holes were completely filled in before painting, so if I leave it off, everything is smooth.

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    Hopefully make more progress this weekend! This weekend my main focus is the engine and engine accessories. I want to hear this beast run!
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    Great work. It will be a gem when your finished. Your pace hasn't slow at all. Amazing.
    I like the bumperless look too.
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    New headlights and blinkers in. The blinkers I cleaned in the dishwasher and they came out great! I love the crystal clear headlights.
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    The front end is looking sharp! Still need to get the grill made up.
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    Got the fuel injection rail repainted and put in. I also re-taped the entire engine bay wiring harness, it looks much better. I hooked up the fuel injection wiring harness and some of the engine harness. It's hard to get the wires to look clean.
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    Wire harness looks sharp, harness laying across the engine.

    Had the misses in the garage helping. She did the sound dampening on the doors. Hopefully it helps some.Click image for larger version. 

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    She also washed all my plastic interior parts, getting them ready to be painted black.
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    Got the cars all tucked in the garage. Starting to get some winter weather in Va.
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    Ordered some random parts like a new aluminum radiator and chromed valve cover. Can't wait to get them in!
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    Hey Michael, looking at pic #3 you have the thermostat in upside down. You didn't button her up that way did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcb280z View Post
    Hey Michael, looking at pic #3 you have the thermostat in upside down. You didn't button her up that way did you?
    You know, I'm not sure. I will pop the cover off and double check. I remember looking at it and wasn't quite sure which way it went. Thanks for the catch!! Really appreciate it.
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    Whose Goat?

    rcb is right. Topsy-turvy.
    1976 280Z, with some minor modifications

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    My pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed Head View Post
    Whose Goat?

    rcb is right. Topsy-turvy.
    It's my dads, he's about 95% done. He did a full frame off restoration, it's be going on for about 10 years now. It will be done by spring time. 400ci 4spd, white interior.
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    The car is moving right along! I'd say I'm sitting somewhere 85% done. You're never really done with a project, but this car should be on the road soon.

    The back end is looking awesome. Tail lights and panel installed, along with the rear hatch. Test fitting the spoiler in this picture, spoiler is sitting on the hatch crooked.

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    Another angle with the spoiler mounted. The hatch is sitting a little high, it might need some adjustment, but it's also all new rubber.



    Check out this front end! I'm really digging the way it came out. The upper is a stock 280 grill, and the lower is a modified 240 grill. It fills in the front end nicely!

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    Blasted and painted the spare tire and painted the rear jack. Looks great! Makes a good accessory at car shows. The tire looks like it would actually work, I'm not going to try. I have 3 original cans of air to go with it too.

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    The original stickers are in pretty good shape.

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    The steering wheel has been rewrapped and repainted. Looks great.

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    Got a lot of the interior in. Door panels came out great. The plastic and vinyl pieces are looking good.

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    Car is off to the interior shop tomorrow. Getting the headliner put in. Also getting him to do the finish touches with the carpet. I got the carpet kit from Zcarsource. It didn't come with any padding and the fit isn't too user friendly, so I'll get him to make it look right.

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    Notice the garage wheels are on the car. Don't want to get the nice wheels messed up.

    After this I need to finishing hooking up the engine harness, hook up all the brakes, and get the gas tank in. Then she should be on the road under her own power. Gas tank is kicking my butt right now, I posted a thread about the gas tank to night.
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    I didn't realize how long it's been since I've done an update. A lot has happen to the car, I'd say it's about 90% done. Got the engine fired up, but she's running really rich. I need to double check my vacuum lines, check the AFM, and do a valve adjustment. Engine has only has about 30 mins of idling time on her. The clutch needs some more adjusting. At first it was slipping, then I couldn't shift gears, and now the car will move, but once I give it gas the clutch just slips. More on that later..now for some pictures!

    Restored spare tire looking great.



    Modified the false floor so I now have access to the storage compartments. It came out perfect. You can't tell that the front part flips up. Perfect for storing random things. (Picture is before I installed the center console and finished painting inside the compartments)


    The seats and interior are looking great. (Rear hatch weather stripping fell down)



    I really like the rear end with the smooth bumper. Exhaust looks great too.


    Here's some shots of it on the lift. I don't have too many photos of the finished product yet.




    And finally the car loaded up in the trailer. I'm moving out to San Diego. Progress on the car is going to have to go on hold for a bit until I found a place to live. Can't wait to get back to working on her. She's been registered and insured, just needs a few more adjustments and she'll be ready for her initial drive.

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    Very nicely done! You'll find lots of company in San Diego for your Z.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr45 View Post
    Very nicely done! You'll find lots of company in San Diego for your Z.
    Thanks! I'm still looking for a place to live. I'm itching to get back to work on the Z and hit these California roads.
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    "It's the Dodge Viper of 1970, in Japan"

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