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    Default What’s the main differences between the 2 and 4 door 240K

    So what’s the main differences?

    I know that the seats have the "Quick release", and the doors are different, but what about the boot lid, back window ?

    I'm just wondering how much gear could be taken from a 4 door and put onto a 2 door after seeing the "save them before crushing" thread.

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    Main difference I guess is the number of doors

    What's this "quick release" you speak of?

    Boot lid is different, as well as all the chrome trim around it. So is the back window. Actually so is the front window apparently.

    The rear bumper is the same.

    Rear beaver panel is different, and not interchangable.

    Tail lights are the same, except Hardtop has the chrome rings.

    And FYI, the wheelbase is the same. Not sure if the rear seats are interchangable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfadog View Post
    What's this "quick release" you speak of?
    Its the little leaver on the side of the seat (upright part), that flips the seat forward, and moves the seat forward (on the track runner), it's to let the back seat passenager in and out.

    well it was on the seats I brought many years ago from a smashed 2 door for my XK falcon I had at the time.

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    ah right yeah, sorry I thought you meant the sedan had a quick-release lever.

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    Basically there is nothing interchangeable from the base of the windscreen or the top of body of the doors (say where the windows reside when down) ..up! The coupe windscreen lays back further and is about 4 inches shorter, rear glass.. no way

    P.s. Windscreen might be 2 inches shorter....I f'get now
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    If it wasn't so cold and dark outside I'd go out an measure the windows for you. But it is, so I wont.

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    upon superficial glance it appears the entire front clip is the same. i'd bet, too, that door handles and all running gear under the car are exactly the same. i'd say even the firewall is the same.

    i'm not too familiar with these cars yet, so i'm only guessing. are the interiors the same, ie, the dash? seats? steering wheels? belts? dome lights?

    things un-swappable would be doors, glass, rear 1/4. if wheelbase is the same, perhaps the diff and driveshaft are identical. as well as all suspension.

    i'm only assuming.

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    well, one is a 74 and the sedan is a 77, so there are styling differences. For example the dashboard is different with regards to the air vents, glovebox, crashpad, but it looks like the gauge panel will interchange. but don't take my word for it - mounting screw holes etc might have changed over the years. Steering wheel is the same for Aussie cars (JDM and europe, the steering wheels changed).

    The diff is the same, probably the whole rear suspension is the same, but might not be. (240z and 260z 2+2 have slightly different suspension making a direct swap not possible, unless you start replacing parts, so K might be the same).

    And the weighs less than the 2 door.
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    THats supposed to be

    "And the sedan weighs less than the 2 door."

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    dash guage panel is interchangable through model years and sedan/hardtop

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    I had allway thought that a GT was a 2 doors, but looking through this site http://blog.goo.ne.jp/midget_tmk/m/200604, I came across a "Datsun 240K GT" 4 door. Is this something that has been made up, or JDM ?


    also for me I have 2, 240K, one for parts, a 73 4 door, and my daily driver is a 77 4 door, Mr Camouflage mentioned about the dash air vents been different, which is correct, the console is a little different to, I know that my 73 one has a rubber type top on the lid of the console, I know the wind shield washer bottle is in a different place, the 73 one has it on the left hand side towards the front of the car, my 77 one has it infront of the right hand shock tower, but I not sure if some has moved it before I brought the car,
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    It was only 240K GL in Australia IIRC...

    "240K" wasn't used in Japan at all.

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    Yeah the 240K GT came in both 2 and 4 doors. Though they were badged as GL's in Australia (except for the first lot of Coupes in '73).

    Yep, Center console is different, now that you mention it, but both mine have a lid on the storage compartment.
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    Confirmed. Front windows and window trim are different between the sedan and the coupe. I thought they were, but measured them to be sure. Sedans window is more upright and is taller than the coupe. The coupe's is on more of an angle, but is also shorter.
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    I have been in the same situation and at the same time owned a 74 hardtop and a 77 sedan.

    Some differences are due to facelift model not necessarily difference between hardtop and sedan.

    Differences I noticed:
    as already described; different dash vents (round/rectangular) rear garnish chrome, different glass, different seats.

    Other internal differences:
    77 sedan had air conditioning so had "cooler" option on heater controls to left of "cool" option. Sedan had cloth seats, hardtop - full vinyl.

    77 sedan had a 5 speed so 5 speed wooden gear knob.

    Slightly different horn button designs, hardtop "D" is encased in a clear resin, sedan is not and looks cheaper.

    Different seatbelts, the sedan clips mounted to sides of seat not to the floor behind the seats as in hard top.

    Gauge cluster in hardtop has a single round red light at bottom of tacho - "brake" for handbrake being on. Sedan has a rectangular "brake" and "park brake" lenses in bottom right corner of fake wood section.

    Speed switch is connected to rear of gauge cluster to control BCDD- boost controlled deceration device (anti pollution crap.)

    Under bonnet/exterior:

    The 77 had EGR and BCDD (Nissan anti polution crap) and an automatic choke (so no choke like in the hard top.

    The centre DATSUN badges differ on the rear tail light panel, the earlier model badge is a lot simplier and they are not interchangible.

    Someone also told me that there is a difference in front calipers, earlier ones are Sumitomo and slightly better than later model ones. I cannot confirm this though.
    1974 Datsun KHGC110 240K GT Hardtop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfadog View Post
    "Tail lights are the same, except Hardtop has the chrome rings."
    Also they are slightly different on the back but only marginally :>
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    rear bumper and taillight valance are not interchangable, also the trim associated arent either.

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    well a bit of useless info, passenger side inner seat rail is differant on the
    75' 240k sedan compared to the 77' 240k sedan!

    i only found this out after i bought a 240k for its seat rails
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    The 2 last exhaust hangers (to hold the muffler) are different to, the 4 doors bolt onto the chassis, the 2 door are welded on, and are different.

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