Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: MSA A pillar trim, header trim and headliner

  1. #1
    Still plays with cars kenz240z's Avatar
    Member ID
    CZCC-6323
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Berthoud, CO
    Age
    53
    Posts
    738

    Smile MSA A pillar trim, header trim and headliner

    Last weekend my buddy Mike (Pop's Z) stopped over to help me install the MSA A pillar trims and windshield header trim in my '71. It is definitely a 2 person job. We found it best to have one person inside the car to pull & stretch the vinyl and the other person outside the car to pull & fold the vinyl along the outside edge of the window weld flange and door weld flanges.

    Fastening the vinyl to the inside weld flange with the pinch moulding takes a little practice. After a few initial tries, we got the hang of it and committed ourselves by spraying the foam and the vinyl with adhesive. Wick Humble's book on Z car restoration does a good job of describing the process for installing the trims and also the headliner.

    A few nights later I installed the MSA headliner by myself. I started by taping the headliner into position to make sure it was centered and that there was enough material on all 4 sides to tuck under the A pillar/header trim edges and also the rear edge (where the dome light is).

    I marked the center of the headliner at the front edge (where the rearview mirror will mount) and also at the rear edge (dome light opening) with pieces of tape. Then I sprayed a band of adhesive on the roof from front to back, about 3 or 4 inches wide. I sprayed a similar width on the backside of the headliner. After the adhesive tacked up I stuck the headliner to the roof starting at the front edge and smoothing it towards the rear edge. I double checked that the positioning was good by holding up the side "flaps" to insure the headliner was still centered.

    Then I proceeded to adhere each of the "flaps". I did not spray adhesive on the outer edge, about an inch or so, as that amount of material gets tucked up under the edges. Once the headliner was adhered to the roof I began to tuck as much of the extra material up under the edges with my fingers. Then I used a plastic trim tool to finish tucking the edges. A plastic putty knife or a plastic "bondo" spreader would also work for this.

    Here are a few photos:
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05294.jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	107.8 KB 
ID:	39549   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05296.jpg 
Views:	229 
Size:	111.8 KB 
ID:	39550   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05297.jpg 
Views:	240 
Size:	125.8 KB 
ID:	39551   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05300.jpg 
Views:	241 
Size:	114.4 KB 
ID:	39552   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05303.jpg 
Views:	329 
Size:	94.2 KB 
ID:	39553  

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05304.jpg 
Views:	240 
Size:	136.0 KB 
ID:	39554   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05323.jpg 
Views:	267 
Size:	137.2 KB 
ID:	39555   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05334.jpg 
Views:	521 
Size:	97.7 KB 
ID:	39556   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05336.jpg 
Views:	357 
Size:	88.8 KB 
ID:	39557   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC05340.jpg 
Views:	301 
Size:	106.4 KB 
ID:	39558  

    Kenny P.

    '73 240Z
    '82 ZX L28
    '82 ZX 5-speed
    Round top SU's
    Tokico HP struts
    Tokico Springs
    Urethane bushings

    my gallery

  2. #2
    Registered User Pop's Z's Avatar
    Member ID
    CZCC-8342
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Fort Collins, Colorado
    Age
    75
    Posts
    430

    Default

    We do good work, don't we? The headliner turned out really good, Kenny. No wrinkles!
    Mike

  3. #3
    Registered User TriDawgn's Avatar
    Member ID
    CZCC-18530
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    75

    Default

    You guys can come over and do mine if you'd like Looks great!
    Resto in progress:
    1972 HLS30-73872

  4. #4
    Brian
    Member ID
    CZCC-20911
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Richmond VA
    Age
    42
    Posts
    243

    Default

    Has anyone had problems with their headliner seperating? I put mine up 3 months ago and it just started drooping. I thought maybe I didn't use enough glue but when I checked it, the mesh that goes against the roof was still glued to the roof but the vinyl and foam were drooping. Was I supposed to take that mesh stuff off or is this liner just falling apart? MSA says they will send a new one which is cool that they stand behind thier products like that but did I screw it up or does it sound like its defective?

  5. #5
    Registered User Oiluj's Avatar
    Member ID
    CZCC-15388
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    SF Bay Area
    Age
    66
    Posts
    1,746

    Default

    Nice Job! You have to use "proffesional grade" adhesive or it will droop when it gets hot in Summer. (Ask me how I know...)
    Julio
    1972 240Z (in-progress, 95% complete)
    CZC# 15388

  6. #6
    Registered User
    Member ID
    CZCC-7238
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Arizona
    Age
    74
    Posts
    180

    Default

    Here in Arizona the upholstery guys use the blue label landau top glue. It has to diluted some and then sprayed on.

  7. #7
    Registered User Travel'n Man's Avatar
    Member ID
    CZCC-14147
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Western North Carolina
    Age
    60
    Posts
    1,486

    Default

    I had the exact same separation to happen - had to install a new one this driving season.
    Life's a journey; enjoy the ride!

    Mitchell
    L28 - N42 Block w/Flat tops - N42 Rebello Head & Cam - Triple 40 PHH Mikuni's - Headers - Recaro Seats -
    R180 3.9 Diff - Close Ratio 5 Speed - Toyota Vented Brake Upgrade w/ Porterfield High Performance Pads & Shoes

    1972 Datsun 240z
    HLS30-75040


  8. #8
    Brian
    Member ID
    CZCC-20911
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Richmond VA
    Age
    42
    Posts
    243

    Default

    Just got the new headliner. Is the 3M heavy duty adhesive good to spray it with? Last time I, I sprayed the roof and the headliner then let it sit for 10 minutes or so and then put liner up. Was probably 70 degrees in garage.

  9. #9
    Nova Scotia,Canada,Earth Blue's Avatar
    Member ID
    CZCC-7641
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    NS
    Posts
    4,085

    Default

    Mine drooped crappy 3m glue.
    There is scarcely anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse, and sell a little more cheaply.
    The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey.


    John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)



    ZCars in Eastern Canada seaport ready for shipment to Europe

    http://ZSportCanada.com


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Headliner Replacement 72 240Z
    By Miles in forum Interior (S30)
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 01-23-2010, 02:25 PM

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •