S30 in 3d

[Mikes Z car]

INST3D,
How long is the video as far as time? Looks it is about 601 MB in size from the error message. If you can edit it to a shorter time and then try uploading that it might work. Or break it up into smaller pieces, maybe the total size isn't an issue but the size of any one file is. If you didn't want to experiment with editing it someone else might be able to do it if you were to break it up into pieces that could be emailed and rejoined by the person you email the file to. Maybe 60 files (assuming email max file size just over 10 MB) each 10 MB in size would work. A good program that I have used for that is HJSPLIT. I have used it for years on a Mac and a PC and it has always worked. It doesn't have to be installed and is freeware. Google will find a download page for it.
Mike

[1 tuff z]

Just discovered this [there was a link posted on HybridZ]. Love technology!

[motorman7]

model integration. Looks like we can combine models...very nice

[INST3D]

that means that we get a lot of profit in modelling
so Rich will be able to make models fully matching to mine

[INST3D]

that means that we get a lot of profit in modelling
so Rich will be able to make models fully matching to mine

[motorman7]

model integration. Looks like we can combine models...very nice

I should have put some color on the body, Safari Gold maybe? Would have taken all of maybe 30 seconds to do that. May post that a bit later. Of course red would look nice also :-)

[motorman7]

Safari Gold

[Mikes Z car]

I enjoyed getting to see that!

[motorman7]

With Panasports

[ZohanIsBack]

Looking good! There is some guy who just posted about making the L24 engine in a CAD program (hope I am using that right). Anyway, bumping this so maybe he'll see it, too.

Btw, I didn't realize you could do so much with the rendering programs. The spark plugs, freeze plugs, etc. All very cool!

[motorman7]

AAaaah, you missed the earlier post. The picture with the body, motor and Panasports is the combined models. INST3D is using one type of software and I am using SolidWorks. I was able import his model (the body) into my CADD program (motor and wheels) and assemble. Works well.

[26th-Z]

Sorry if this has been brought up before....3D printing. Architect wants to print a house - MSN Real Estate

There are two videos. The second one is over-the-top cool.

[INST3D]

Currently "affordable" printers can't print that high quality models that we have,we are making the models for some insane renders
Sorry for not posting updates on the body,I'm learning softimage XSI,that's much more better 3d-programm than 3ds max (that one I was working in)
Also will try to re-capture the demonstration of the process later on

[motorman7]

Starting to do some surfacing here in Pro-E. This has a lot of promise. Here is a quick hood model I made here at work

[INST3D]

Managed to upload the video.
S30in3D - YouTube

[Mikes Z car]

Thanks for taking the time to capture and upload the video. I gained some insights into using Autocad from your work, I think you said you were using Autocad but there was discussion of another program too. If too many people see your skills with Autocad someone is going to offer you a job if you don't already have one and maybe if you do have one!

[INST3D]

[grannyknot]

Wow, I can't see fault anywhere, Your not finished yet but to my eye it's perfect so far.

[Blue]

It is like a work from Leonardo !!! Brilliant!


I guess once digitized, it can be mathematically analyzed to highlight structurally weak and strong areas then modified to improve. It would be great for designing after market parts and proving ones that already exist as well as roll/structural cage mounting locations..... probably aerodynamics too!

Great tool!

[jeanp]

Maybe a little late but if it can help here is my 240Z

with no wheel not strut

[INST3D]

jeanp,thank you,but for now I've got enough pictures of that part.

[INST3D]

why no comments ?

[Mikes Z car]

INST3D,
That really looks great. You might get requests now from people who want to see different wheels on your model!
Mike

[LeonV]

Looks fantastic, can't wait to see it finished! If the model is dimensionally sound, it would be a great tool to try out different things without actually having to mess with your Z. I'm sure engine-swappers would love it.

[dzeyene]

why no comments ?

Amazing job INST3D.. in for seeing more and hopefully the release of the 3d file to the public.

Thanks,

Ben

[INST3D]

Thank you guys!
so I've decided to make retopology at this stage,not to make it when the model is more detailed

[Mikes Z car]

I had to go look up that word retopology, which seems to mean the polygon count is reduced to make it ready for painting or animation?

[INST3D]

well,not to reduce the polycount,but to make the wire look good(now it's terrible,but ok for static geometry which doesn't deform,but I'm gonna play a lot with the model so I need a "playable" wireframe)
About polycount:I really don't mind high values(for now the car has about 4 million polygons with symmetry)because it is easy to handle it in viewports(parts of a programm where you are working in) as you can lower the resolution of the model
Models with both good and bad topology will look same on renders,but the bad one will be hard to operate with

And yep,the bad one is shaded in a bad way(that works only for viewports,not for renders)

[Mikes Z car]

If I understand, when you make retopology it allows you to push and pull on the model to adjust it?

[INST3D]

It allows you to re-made the model based on the initial mesh

[dzeyene]

Another great update... are you anticipating the model to be 100% accurate in sizing/features??

[INST3D]

I won't miss any detail,but for now it is really hard to make even 95%-accurate,but we'll see
So guys if you gane fully disassembled body,let me know.

[dzeyene]

I won't miss any detail,but for now it is really hard to make even 95%-accurate,but we'll see
So guys if you gane fully disassembled body,let me know.

I see, basically i am in need of a 3d model to work off with some extreme body modifications, i was considering 3d scanning but if you believe your model will be externally accurate i will hold off. Wish i could help in some way but my modeling skills are limited.

[INST3D]

if you have fully disassebled body*
--
Decided not to make retopology,but to fix the overall geometry.
Could you please take photos of these parts?(More views desirable)

Also rendered a bit..All the cracks and bumps that are seen on these 2 are fixed.

[Blue]

Some rad support and inner fender details on these pages:

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/o...ties-240z.html


2009 240Z build : Classic Z General - Page 15

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/09/01/...0-datsun-240z/

240z with RB26DETT, multilink, EPS, etc - S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z - HybridZ

Goonfan's 72' 240Z Resurrection build - Project Datto - Ratsun Forums

FuFu'Z 240Z Project! 56K warning... too slow.


http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/o...ct-71-a-7.html

[Lassekongo]

Not the best quality on my pic's, and i hope the link works.
If you want clos ups on something maybe i can help, my 240z project is just a shell right now.
Really impressed by your work.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...21097512483985

[INST3D]

Guys,I really appreciate that a lot!Thank you!The links are extremely helpful

[INST3D]

a plenty of renders!YAY

also haven't find a single photo of this part.

any help would be appreciated

[LeonV]

Looking good!!!

[Blue]

Some reference pics

[Blue]

[Blue]

[Mikes Z car]

Here are some pictures from the engine side of the radiator support though the PO undercoated the engine bay which may make this too dark to be useful.





Driver's side:

[motorman7]

Here's a few of the inside.

[Lassekongo]

Here is a good pic from one off andres14oj posts.
Note that the frame raile is narrower in the front.

[INST3D]

sorry for not working on it,been working on some other models lastly

[Mikes Z car]

Great looking model! There is a nice translucency so that parts can be seen behind others like an X ray view.

[INST3D]

Thank you guys for all the references and comments!They help a lot!
So the engine bay is going to be hard

[INST3D]

exams....

Could you please share some pictures of these parts?

[Blue]

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/a...penneybody.jpg

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/a...r-dsc05091.jpg

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/a...m-cushions.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...7-25-10010.jpg

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/a...nder-seals.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...DSC_0185-1.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-06124056.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-19155818.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-20131219.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-20131524.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-20131536.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-28135954.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-28135858.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...5-28135834.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...Z/DSC_0187.jpg

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/a...7-21.16.36.jpg

http://daveparker240z.com/wp-content..._3637125_n.jpg

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/a...z-pic_0004.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...3/IMGP0212.jpg

http://www.hangoverture.com/240Z/UnderCowlFinished.jpg

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/a...k-dsc00255.jpg

[grannyknot]

Here's a question, at some point in the future do you think this work you are doing could be used as the basis for a 3D printed version of a Z car?

[Mikes Z car]

exams....

Could you please share some pictures of these parts?

You might consider providing some guidance with your request. From my very limited experience from making much less complicated drawings I would want pictures straight on to those edges such as straight down, looking from the side, across from one side of the car to the other or from the front of the car. For the area next to the windshield I would think you might also want a picture taken at the same angle as the windshield. Or maybe several angles is the best help? Flash might work better to define lines better?
You may already have all of the pictures you need as another possibility.
Mike

[INST3D]

Blue,Oh thank you dude!These links are very helpful!
grannyknot,there was already a little discussion.I don't know much about 3d printers,also there are some really complex shapes,but I suggest yea it could bee used for 3d-printing
Mikes Z car,yea I have already got all the pictures I need.Thank you.
I'll post some progress as soon as possible

[INST3D]

here are some renders
that's pretty fine resolution,so you can open it fullscreen

[Blue]

very nice...cool work... just saw you are russian so even cooler !

[Dershum]

Damn...I wish everything on my Z was as straight as in those renders

Beautiful work!

[INST3D]

Sorry guys,was on a vacation and didn't even have internet there.
On the 4th of July of 2012 I have created this thread.So the model is 1 year old,he-he.
During this year we've alsmost finished the symmetry of the chassis(as the car is assymetrical,first I'll do all the symmetrical parts), done a lot of beautiful renders,and the most interesting thing is that this progress is the least I can do.Of course the mesh has it's cracks and bumps and that is being fixed during the time.I've been parallely learning softimage XSI and Arnold renderer(all the beautiful renders are from this programm and this plugin),and XSI has enormous opportunities in every aspect.Just look at these videos-they were made in XSI by some talented people:


enough said.Here you go.All they are 1920*1080

[INST3D]

I won't be able to update the project for some time
so here is an old picture-having fun in mudbox

[Stanley]

Been following this thread for a year. Looks like you're on your way to a career in design or engineering. Once the Z is complete that's just the beginning. Then you could try some other stuff, various classic rims, stance and paint combinations, engine mods and swaps, racing models, etc. How about a drag car with wheelie bars and an L-series engine with a belt-driven blower? Or a rally car with roll cage, mud flaps, bull bars, a turbo, and mud spatters? Don't know much about CAM but I'm guessing it's how model cars are made.

[Mr Camouflage]

A little off topic, but there's a guy in NZ that is downloaded a 3D model of a '61 Aston Martin and is 3D printing it out bit by bit full size to make a replica. Kiwi Ivan Sentch 3D printing a 1961 Aston Martin... | Stuff.co.nz

He also owns a 250GTO replica that looks like a S30 based kit.

[Mikes Z car]

I think this is it:


He wants to use it to make a mold to make an actual car? Interesting idea.
PS I was in Perth once, nice city you have there!

[INST3D]

I'm back working on it!

[Mike]

Very cool shot!

[Stanley]

Wonder if there's a free or inexpensive viewer for the CAD's you're using so someone with little or no experience can zoom in, spin it around, etc. There may be free trial versions of those CAD's but by the time you learn the basics the trial period is up. Sketchup has a viewer, if I email someone a SU model I also send a link for the free viewer. Wish SU could look like this.
BTW I measured the angle of the engine relative to the horizontal plane on the body at the L-shaped area under the doors at about one degree with a digital angle meter.

[Glliw]

This is an awesome project! Keep up the good work. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. I've never worked in AutoCAD but have extensively in Pro/E,Inventor, and Solidworks. When this is complete, I'd love to play with it for airflow analyses, as structural stress analyses. Are you modeling as surfaces, or is there thickness to the sheetmetal panels?

To answer Stanley's question, if the file owner hosts the data files on GRABCAD.com then their viewer will allow for any user to view it for free through their browser.

[INST3D]

yup,thickness.That's polygonal modelling so I have to handle both sides of metal,so I need to maintain distance between 2 sides

[INST3D]

Can't find referals of this part.Can you help me?

[Mikes Z car]

Well if you want the fire wall area and the area above that which is normally behind and above the glove box meaning you are drawing a left hand drive car I have 1972 parts car I have the dash out of I will take pictures of much later today though someone else may be able to provide better pictures than me and before I can get to it.

[INST3D]

first I will make all the symmetrical parts,because I work on the half of the body.Then I will symmetryze it and work on assymetrical parts

[Mikes Z car]

Here are some pictures behind the glove box but the firewall insulator is still there. It might be better for you if I get back further from the firewall (the seat was in the way but it is not bolted down) to include more area in the pictures for better reference. I am willing to pull the firewall insulation off and take more pictures, want to be sure it is easy and isn't thoroughly glued.

[INST3D]

Thanks a lot!!These pictures are enough for me,no need to take more

[Reverend]

If there's any GTA IV players here, i suggest you download this mod, its awesome.

GTA4-Mods.com - Grand Theft Auto 4 car mods, tools, and more!

[INST3D]

Live in fear since this moment
LОL

[INST3D]

still having fun,haah

[Blue]

Can you make a 240z station-wagon/ estate by playing with the back?

[INST3D]

Blue,
yea sure but not now.These parts were already made so I've just attached em.
When the mesh is finished I will let you guys to create your own ideas.As Stanley said,"stance and paint combinations, engine mods and swaps, racing models, etc. How about a drag car with wheelie bars and an L-series engine with a belt-driven blower? Or a rally car with roll cage, mud flaps, bull bars, a turbo, and mud spatters?".Drag,drift,rally,stance,different types of body-you will just tell me what you want to see,and we'll decide which version to do.You can even do some drawings to show me the idea.About the drawings-having a programm that can edit image files(the best for now is photoshop) you will be able to create your own paint-combinations.
Too many "will be",for now I just need to end up the chassis.Everything else shouldn't go this long.We'll see then

[Blue]

Got it!

Keep on trucking!

[Blue]

Not as nice as yours but it may be of interest: 3D max nissan fairlady z

[Blue]

another:

Nissan 240z WIP - Page 5 - 3DTotal Forums

[INST3D]

the one on turbosquid is bad,look at the rear lights
there are pretty many 240's in 3d made,but the aim of my project was to make something nobody has never made
Datsun 240Z | SMCars.Net - Car Blueprints Forum
Datsun 280zx 2+2 Targa | SMCars.Net - Car Blueprints Forum
//Don't do updates because finishing the blazer

[Dershum]

I know this is totally dragging a thread up from the dead - but did you ever make any further progress on this? Also, what would the changes be of getting some .STL exports of the 3D model? I'm starting in on the 3D printing craze, and I'd love to see if I could print pieces of this model!

[INST3D]

Actually no progress.Been learning a lot of new software and still learning. Also school takes a lot of time and maybe I will remake the model in a very different and easier way.But I don't think that will happen soon.Attaching last renders I got from it.
I will try to convert it to .stl but not sure about the quality.Wait a few days and if convertion will be ok the model wil be right here.

[INST3D]

240-basic geometry
240det-detailed( smoothed x1)
240det1-detailed( smoothed x2)
the first one should work fine and for the second one I'm not sure if it will open at all. Same with the last one. But you should have a try.
The model is not closed ( "water untight") so I don't think its okay for 3d printing. Also watch the scale, most likely it's not okay either.
The website doesn looke like prefer eating .zip archives
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z.zip ? RGhost ? ?????????????
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tell me if you know a better file storage of want me to re-upload the file

[Dershum]

INST3D I was able to pull down one of the .zip files and load it into Repetier. It looks like the model mostly translated, but the A pillars seem to be missing from the model. Check it out:



I'm not so worried about the "not manifold" warnings it likes to throw, but I'm not sure how much success
I'd have without the A pillars.

I think I might try loading it into something like meshmixer or similar to see if I can split it into logical pieces - printing the whole thing as-is wouldn't work very well. I want to see if I can get a piece of it at least printed to see how it comes out! I'll let you know how it goes

[bartsscooterservice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvbLFVoSNmQ

Looks pretty good also, can still see many flaws though

[INST3D]

seems to be latest version I can see on my hard drive
apillarsin.rar ? RGhost ? ?????????????

[Mike]

seems to be latest version I can see on my hard drive
apillarsin.rar ? RGhost ? ?????????????

Hey INST3D, let me know what you would like to do with ZIP files on this site. I can increase the size of allowed uploads for you. I'd rather let you do this than use external links that will eventually expire.

Regarding the model, it's looking very good!! I like the last image you posted with the real scene in the background. The model almost looks real enough you can touch it.

UPDATE: I just checked the max size of a .ZIP file and it was set to 1MB. I increased this to 10MB to help offset this problem. Let me know if you can now upload. Thanks.

[INST3D]

The models in zip files may go up to 100mb easily so there is no need of uploading them in this site
Anyways, thanks, Mike!
I can do some renders for the website already if you want, just tell me how you want it to look.Although it's just unfinished body, it may look ok

[gusz280]

JUST WOW, dude you have an amazing skill ...keep up the good work