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    http://www.nissansportmag.com/

    It looks like Nissan Sport has passed.

    Damn.

    Looks like arrangements were made for GrassRoots Motorsports will be picking up their content.
    A Z is beautiful from any angle, I just happen to prefer to view from the drivers' seat!

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    How many does that make? I have had subscriptions to all of the Z mags and have watched each and every one fail. At least this time, I got out before they went belly up. Every other time, I renewed just before the doors closed. I hate to see this happen, but unfortunately, I think it's clear that a magazine devoted to Z cars, Datsuns, or even all Nissans isn't a viable venture. I doubt we'll ever see another one pop up.
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    Let's see...
    Z Car Magazine
    Z Car and Classic Datsun Magazine
    I forgot what came next...
    Nissan Sport Magazine

    Let's face it. The internet community makes the magazine business difficult, especially for one focused on a small population.
    Heck, I cancelled my C&D Magazine subscription because I didn't like their automatic renewal policy.
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    Steve & Jeff have it pegged. The market for something as narrow-focus as a Z/Datsun/Nissan magazine is too small to support one in the Internet Era. Do I like it? No. But there aren't enough paying subscribers to support the cost to publish, and advertisers won't pay to be in a mag that has low circulation numbers.

    I cancelled my R&T several years ago, when they stopped doing real-world relevant stuff. I do still get Classic Motorsport, as well as Hemmings Sports and Exotic, as they still scratch my itch better.
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    So if I'm reading between the lines correctly, you guys are saying you want to come together and start an online publication for Z-heads? The amount of original content and tech articles you gents post here would certainly be enough to keep a daily blog-style publication (BaT Style?) rolling, and you have enough Nissan/Datsun friends that you know would share their thoughts, hints, photos, and track day experiences to keep it going.
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    I wasn't thinking in that direction per se, but I did start my own blog a month ago, publicizing it in my signature and on FB. I plan to use it to capture what I've learned about the 240Z & 260Z electrical systems and to document with pictures car related experiences. I have linked to Phil's tech tips and other sites I think are useful, too.
    The advantage is that it is there for people all over the world to find. I don't have to hold to any publishing schedule, and I can promote it when and how I see fit. In the end, I can see websites like that providing a lot more to the community than a quarterly magazine that goes out of business every 3 to 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne View Post
    I cancelled my R&T several years ago, when they stopped doing real-world relevant stuff. I do still get Classic Motorsport, as well as Hemmings Sports and Exotic, as they still scratch my itch better.
    I was an R&T subscriber since 2000 and did the same thing, cancelled it a few years ago. I also got tired of the same "super-car" crap over and over. They've got new leadership now and are supposedly going to a different, more grassroots approach.

    With that said, the only two magazines I subscribe to are GRM and CM, and don't plan on adding any more. I have trouble keeping up with reading them all as it is...
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    Since most of the Z related content is already free here on the Internet, there's no paying model that would support an Internet magazine. I cancelled my subscriptions to all car magazines way back in 2008. I got tires of the reprinted press releases from various car manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonV View Post
    I was an R&T subscriber since 2000 and did the same thing, cancelled it a few years ago.
    I grew up reading my dad's R&Ts in the '60s and '70s. Subscribed on my own as soon as I moved out on my own in '76. Was a subscriber for over 30 years, although I waffled on canceling for at least the last 5. Haven't missed it, as CM and S&E suit my interests better.
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    A friend of mine is doing the same; documenting his build. While his grammar leaves something to be desired (Jason if you ever read this, 'u kno im right'), he's an incredible mechanic and attempts projects I wouldn't dream of under crazy timelines: http://zgoldschlager.tumblr.com/. This blog just got started, so he'll be keeping it going. I'll be doing the same thing with both my '70 and '71. Helps keep me organized. Others (Arne) have done incredible sites for Datsuns and, now, 911's.

    So instead of 10 people doing individual free blogs, you combine them all together under one platform, and each day there's an update or two from some, but not all of the projects. You build a community around it with comments (BaT style), sell your advertising space, get individuals who attend Z-Car shows around the country to write articles with photos occasionally and boom: There's how you keep a profitable publication going in the digital age.
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    Good. I never read my required (it comes with Z club dues) subscription anyway. they only had a small article on the 240Z project, so the magazine was of absolutely no value to me.

    OTOH, my new 30 inch computer screen will be great for reading online periodicals. I hope they let you print or save the pages (for a small fee of course!)
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    Nostalgic Hero is by far the most beautiful car mag I've ever seen. It's about classic Japanese (almost exclusively) sports cars and from the few issues I've seen looks like there's something for Z-car people in every issue, interviews, hi-def photos, tech articles, even CD's of classic car shows and nostalgia races. Wish they'd put out a version in English. Wish a subscription was cheaper than buying it issue by issue online or at the bookstore, but no.
    Import Tuner seems to have a Z or ZX in about every other issue - usually with a wild GT-R engine swapped in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomoHawk View Post
    I hope they let you print ... pages
    How else 'ya gonna read it on the can?!
    Feb '70 & Mar '71 240z

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    I'm sure there will be a reader for iPad, Android, and some people will probably put a screen next to the can.
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    I've been seeing quite a trend in magazine businesses over the past few years. As an example, we received a last issue of Newsweek Magazine the other day. On the front cover, they said this it the last issue, ever. So, if it's not feasible for a huge magazine with an 80-year history to continue printing magazines, I seriously doubt a small specialty magazine will make it much further. The NY Post has a great article about it.

    Most magazines are looking at online publications due to the lower costs and mainstream media changes. You can still download Newsweek on your iPad, Kindle, or other mobile device. We are seeing a HUGE change in the way we look at published material. Just look at what happened with Borders Bookstores. Like it or not, I predict there will be a time where all printed magazines will go away. All of us will end up having a mobile device to read.

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    I suppose that instead of having a nice lamp over the kitchen table, you'll have a big, two-sided screen. The screen will handle your TV and telecommunications too. Maybe even your mail ( bills, paying bills, etc.) You'll just have to remember to put your robe on before entering the kitchen!
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    This is where we are "headed"....

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    Those "two sided screens" are going to make it much more difficult to view porn in the office.

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    Boy, this thread ended up in the crapper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zKars View Post
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    No bullseye?
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    No but it has a hell of a splash shield....
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    Over the years that I have attended Branson Z-Fest, Nissan Sport Magazine ( Art Singer ) has been there, the past several years in 'Project 240Z'. This year it arrived in a 'wrapper'. I know I will miss the magazine, the sub came with paid Z-Fest entry.

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    Let me know if you are looking for a specific issue to complete your collection. I have a pile of "SportZ" and "Nissan Sport" taking up shelf space.
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    I have them all.

    z car mag
    z car and classic datsun(except the one that should have come on a cd, mark sayer. It was online for a bit but didn't download it)
    sport Z
    Nissan Sport

    At least they did try to make a go of it for those who wanted an actual magazine. I commend them for that.
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    I have been looking forward to presenting Art with a set of shoe chains at ZdayZ this year...his Shoe Laces simply don't hold up to the Serious partying he was doing at 3am in the Lobby of the Lodge-talk about cutting a rug!

    Here are some pictures I took of Art in his chariot coming to and leaving the Damn Photo at ZdayZ 2012. He built that car like the Milenium Falken-in the picture the front is just blurring in to the jump light speed...the Han Solo wananbe!
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    A Z is beautiful from any angle, I just happen to prefer to view from the drivers' seat!

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    Did anyone get their first issue of Grassroots Motorsports? I got one and there is a nice article on a 240Z. I saw a picture of a 350Z, but it's in an article about daily-drivers that you can take to the track.

    GRM is MUCH better than NissanSport. I don't think I'll be trashing the GRM.
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    Thanks for pointing it out. I just got my issue today.
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